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Old 02-22-2019, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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Originally Posted by Neuling View Post
I think anyone working full-time should be able to enjoy a humble, but decent quality of life, including burger flippers and people like that. The whole job Darwinism has to go. A funny word for that would be jobbery (job+snobbery) ^^



The problem with paying burger flippers a "living wage" is that means that the price of the burger has to be high enough to sustain it.

And who eats fast food the most?

Poor people/lower middle class people.
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Old 02-22-2019, 05:38 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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You can wax poetic about revolutions but the fact is when enough people get p'd off, they tend to take matters into their own hands.
As Governor Cuomo has learned the hard way... they already are taking matters into their own hands.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN2EItSNWQY
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Old 02-22-2019, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I am a strong believer that unless you are physically or mentally challenged there is no reason to be truly poor. So instead of everyone wanting to give the poor everything like free this and that do something to encourage them to work for what they need and want. The world is not equal and was never met to be. I know, we are middle class, could be better off than we are if we had planned better and i do not resent anyone, anymore of better means has. There will always be some, by no fault of their own that do need government assistance. My heart goes out to some of them, but not to those who are looking for a hand out and many are.. Nothing can stop any of us from getting an education, finding work in this good economy and do a job one can be proud of. Some day care assistance is fine, free day care, NOPE!!
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Short of cases of actual theft, no one in America is rich because someone else is poor.

If I make $20.00/hr, that in no way prevents you from also making $20.00/hr......or more.

That concept doesn't change because the numbers get bigger.

If I get rich, that in no way prevents you from also getting rich.
Back in the 1960's CEO compensation to average worker compensation was around 20 to 1, now its over 300. Seems like those corporate board could spread that compensation around more fairly.
Then there are the lobbies by the .1% they even have accounting offices staffed just to decide how they can get more favorable tax treatment.
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:19 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Back in the 1960's CEO compensation to average worker compensation was around 20 to 1, now its over 300. Seems like those corporate board could spread that compensation around more fairly.
Then there are the lobbies by the .1% they even have accounting offices staffed just to decide how they can get more favorable tax treatment.
who cares? If you're a shareholder you might, if not, it's none of your business.
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Perhaps if we worked on how all of these children came to be born into poverty and lack of parenting.
Exactly. 48% of all US births/year are paid for by Medicaid, the means-tested public assistance free health care program for the poor. We're never going to be able to close the gap when about 50% of all Americans are born into a poor/struggling household environment (medicaid.gov). That disadvantages them right off the bat. 70% of them will never rise above the 20% income percentile (maximum income: about $25,000/year) their entire lives (PEW Research). It's a lifetime of hardship and struggle.
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:48 AM
 
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Exactly. 48% of all US births/year are paid for by Medicaid, the means-tested public assistance free health care program for the poor. We're never going to be able to close the gap when about 50% of all Americans are born into a poor/struggling household environment (medicaid.gov). That disadvantages them right off the bat. 70% of them will never rise above the 20% income percentile (maximum income: about $25,000/year) their entire lives (PEW Research). It's a lifetime of hardship and struggle.
If you pay for something, chances are you'll get more of it.

If you "pay" for poverty in the form of welfare, you certainly get more of it, and we do, but shouldn't.
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:52 AM
 
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Back in the 1960's CEO compensation to average worker compensation was around 20 to 1, now its over 300. Seems like those corporate board could spread that compensation around more fairly.
Then there are the lobbies by the .1% they even have accounting offices staffed just to decide how they can get more favorable tax treatment.
Your estimation of what constitutes "fairly" is pointless. Boards pay what they have to for the talent they need, at current prices. The ratio you cite is irrelevant.
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:56 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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thanks - it made me realize that I forgot to put the article in a quote box. And give me the chance to repeat:

OVER HALF of the richest people in America started out with LESS THAN $1MM inherited.
This gets updated every year. The latest...

67.25% (269/400) of the top 400 wealthiest persons in the US are self-made.
Those who inherited some of their wealth and then worked significantly to increase it? 16.75% (67/400).
Those who just flat-out inherited their wealth? 16% (64/400).

Forbes 400 2018: A New Number One And A Record-Breaking Year For America's Richest People
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Old 02-22-2019, 06:58 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Funny how the same side that's pro-union is also pro-illegal immigration that is replacing it.
They're getting exactly what they deserve. I don't think they'll ever figure out what they're doing wrong...
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