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It's wrong. It's wrong for people on the left to do it. It's wrong for people on the right to do it.
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong.
Some people understand this concept.
Cram your schadenfreude with walnuts.
Affirmative action is all else being equal. it doesn't drop the standard to allow admission. This was outright cheating on entrance exams and bribery, otherwise there would have been no charges.
I have a question for the posters who keep comparing this to students who get into colleges because of legacy or donations. When was the last time parents were arrested for that?
This is about internal under the sheets bribery aside from the normal admissions process.
In fact, many of these actions were done to FOOL the normal admissions process.
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Now, setting that aside, in the course of a normal admissions process it's entirely legal to let in people for various reasons like donations, legacy, powerful family.
For example, many Public Universities make their budget work by letting in foreign and neighboring state students and charging them more but having lower admission standards. Many freely admit this and cite how it has several benefits but the main one is keeping costs down for the in-state kids.
We're not talking about a few students here and there but THOUSANDS of students at a big state university paying more and getting in with lesser academic scores.
Heck, as others have noted SPORTS is the poster child for lax academic admission standards and a full scholarship on top.
In both cases the University is benefitting financially by having *generally* lower caliber students whom result in $$$ for the university either through sports success, higher tuition or direct donation.
The end result to all that is that the higher scoring students that get financial aid etc. are able to attend because the school is making their money elsewhere.
So, the irony is that the athletes, rich kids etc. are getting a break but at the same time that additional money is helping poorer, better performing kids afford to attend.
You can go to grand ma and grand pa to help with Tuition.
You can t go to the actual school employees with a bribe.
Its where the money comes from, goes to and the legitimcy and intent of use ( legitimate use of 1.something million dollars to a Yale Soccer Coach to help with Yale Admissions procedures )
I was once told by a cop "ignorance of the law is not an excuse". Let's see if it works the other way for those with money and high-priced lawyers.
A cop is not a judge, and "ignorance of the law" is often used as an excuse, particularly when it's something like fraud. The number of laws, the fact that different states have different laws, mean that the vast majority of us don't know all the laws and might violate a law by accident. The question of intent plays a key role, particularly in terms of sentencing.
Bull. Cut the crap. I would bet any amount of money that most of the people doing this are liberal dems who present themselves one way in public and another in private. Hollywood has most dems scammed.
You don't have any facts of course but seem to need to make this partisan.
Bull. Cut the crap. I would bet any amount of money that most of the people doing this are liberal dems who present themselves one way in public and another in private. Hollywood has most dems scammed.
This isn't a left or right problem.
Come on now kids.....this is not blue or red --it's all about the green (money).
Come on now kids.....this is not blue or red --it's all about the green (money).
Exactly true. It is incredibly common for a wealthy parent to give a prestigious university millions and magically, their child is accepted. Did they contribute to the university before that? Usually not.
This is a good example of what I said about these "tests" before. Why would there be so much emphasis on one test. The emphasis should be on that students high school grades.
Academic rigor and educational quality varies EXTREMELY widely among our nation's high schools. Not all grades can be compared on an equitable level. What is considered A grade work at one school may be C or below grade work at another. The same is true of competitve high school sports. State champions from one state might not even be able to best a mid-level team/athlete in another. The nationally-normed SAT/ACT is the ONE objective factor that levels the playing field. All students' SAT/ACT scores are compared on an equal basis, because that's pretty much the only thing in their application which can be. That's what makes this bribing cheating scandal so insidious.
A lot of people also assume that their kid's (or their local school if they have no kids) high school is really good if they offer AP or IB classes. That's not enough to be able to tell. You have to look at the percentage of the school's students who take the AP/IB end of course exam (which may or may not confer college credit, depending on the score one earns), the school's average scores in each subject, and also the percentage of students who earn what is considered passing scores in each subject. Any school can offer AP/IB classes. That's no guarantee that they're any good.
They buy buildings to get their kids in colleges. Completely different MO.
This is more about the 1% it the .01 percent and lower who buy the buildings and give large endowments.
I wonder when was the last time a Kennedy didn't get into Harvard if they wanted to.
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