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Old 03-25-2019, 05:51 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ellise View Post
No, not really.

"“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,’ ” the letter says, signaling that Mueller’s team struggled with the issue."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.984cf023ea15
And that was a low blow he couldn't resist. It's like a prosecutor who loses his case, and says, "just because he was found 'not guilty' doesn't mean he is innocent."

Mueller cast an unbelievably wide net, for two years (!) in his effort to find a way to tie Trump to Russian collusion - and make good on Strozk's "insurance plan" - and he couldn't do it. Why? Because it was all a hoax.

 
Old 03-25-2019, 05:59 AM
 
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Originally Posted by FatBob96 View Post
What does "does not exonerate him" even mean?


Sounds like a CYA statement to me.... Like you're reserving your right to change your mind or attempting to justify the unjustified.


If you have evidence to charge obstruction then charge it.

If you don't, then pack it in and move on.
Let me put it in simple terms for you. You go to trial, and you can either be found guilty or not guilty, however, you might also end up with a hung jury. That means some of the people felt you were guilty but others were not so sure. With a hung jury, you could be retried later.

That is what happened here. Within Mueller's scope of operation, he found out a lot of things, but he left the interpretation of those facts up to the next people in line to determine if they were actionable. He did his job, and could not come out at the end and give Trump a clean bill of health, so he left it as it ended up.

Trump, and his followers are stretching that result to mean Trump is in the clear. That is not what this means at all. I realize a lot of people thought Mueller would come to Trump's door and arrest him at the end, but that isn't how it works.
 
Old 03-25-2019, 05:59 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Rachel976 View Post
And that was a low blow he couldn't resist. It's like a prosecutor who loses his case, and says, "just because he was found 'not guilty' doesn't mean he is innocent."

Mueller cast an unbelievably wide net, for two years (!) in his effort to find a way to tie Trump to Russian collusion - and make good on Strozk's "insurance plan" - and he couldn't do it. Why? Because it was all a hoax.
I was telling this all along. Its just a way to keep people divided, so they can pass the tax cuts. As simple as that.

As Putin says " In America leaders change, but politics doesnt change".
 
Old 03-25-2019, 06:01 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Ellise View Post
No, not really.

"“The Special Counsel states that ‘while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,’ ” the letter says, signaling that Mueller’s team struggled with the issue."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.984cf023ea15
>>> Fair enough. And while the Clintons have never been convicted of murder, we all know that they are guilty of it.
 
Old 03-25-2019, 06:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Rachel976 View Post
And that was a low blow he couldn't resist. It's like a prosecutor who loses his case, and says, "just because he was found 'not guilty' doesn't mean he is innocent."

Mueller cast an unbelievably wide net, for two years (!) in his effort to find a way to tie Trump to Russian collusion - and make good on Strozk's "insurance plan" - and he couldn't do it. Why? Because it was all a hoax.
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Originally Posted by shanv3 View Post
I was telling this all along. Its just a way to keep people divided, so they can pass the tax cuts. As simple as that.

As Putin says " In America leaders change, but politics doesnt change".
This doesn't even make sense. You're saying the Democrats kept their hoax alive so that the Republicans could pass the tax cuts?
 
Old 03-25-2019, 06:06 AM
 
Location: NY
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Default What say ye now unbeliever ? No collusion!

Well....well....well...................$125 million plus of our hard earned tax dollars spent for naught.
The report concludes..................NO COLLUSION WITH RUSSIA.............
Fini...........

Not quite:
Democrats never concede to anything they do not believe in including the truth.
You can layout evidence but if it is missing a quotation mark an exclamation or someone
has forgotten to dot the i or cross the t then you can be sure that the interrogation continue.

For our most senior of posters you can see they never fair well when it comes to facts
or the content of the message but Lord have mercy; misspell a word and the attempt
to derail is born including removing of a post!

The message has never been stronger. President Donald Trump is not a traitor to this country.
He has been abused from day one and capable of winning reelection but I do not think he will run again.
No person will voluntarily submit to the daily onslaught of abuse as did the president. The Democratic
Party exposed themselves as the true left wing socialist indoctrinated college diaper babies they truly are.


The Democratic Party is finished.............................there will be another republican in office come next election !





What is your opinion?
Inquiring minds would like to know?
 
Old 03-25-2019, 06:06 AM
 
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Teflon Don! No collusion! Look into the other steaming stinking side, so much is out in the open. McCabe strzok page Rosenstien. They tried to remove an elected president, even considered recruiting cabinet member to enact the 25th amendment with Rod offering to wear a wire. So much terrible behavior that, so far, nobody has had to answer to. This was a failed coup
 
Old 03-25-2019, 06:07 AM
 
Location: North America
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Originally Posted by WMak70 View Post
Let me put it in simple terms for you. You go to trial, and you can either be found guilty or not guilty, however, you might also end up with a hung jury. That means some of the people felt you were guilty but others were not so sure. With a hung jury, you could be retried later.

That is what happened here. Within Mueller's scope of operation, he found out a lot of things, but he left the interpretation of those facts up to the next people in line to determine if they were actionable. He did his job, and could not come out at the end and give Trump a clean bill of health, so he left it as it ended up.

Trump, and his followers are stretching that result to mean Trump is in the clear. That is not what this means at all. I realize a lot of people thought Mueller would come to Trump's door and arrest him at the end, but that isn't how it works.
^^This^^ Good interpretation.
 
Old 03-25-2019, 06:10 AM
 
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Until we get to read the report -- we have to rely on Barr's interpretation of what he thinks it might be......

until then -- who knows?
 
Old 03-25-2019, 06:15 AM
 
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It means....Trump is 100% in the clear

Barr is the final word
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