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And all because the Deep State is angry that a non-politician won the election! President Trump is not of the Wash DC good old boys; didn't pay his dues and other such nonsense in their mindset. These are the people voters voted into office to work for our country, not waste millions of dollars to try and salve their wounded egos. They are all immature, irresponsible crybabies!
Actually if the federal government is capable of collecting on the Manafort properties the investigation stands to break about even. Notwithstanding any other potential fines and forfeitures in cases brought by the SDNY.
The Russians interfered in our elections to help elect Trump. There is considerable evidence of this.
How much Trump and his campaign folks were involved with this is the question.
We still don't have a straight answer to that.
actually we do. "no evidence" was what the Mueller probe found on that point. Remember also that every single member of the Mueller team were democrats that had given BIG money to the Clinton campaign.
you would be better off abandoning that line and try to go with "oh yea but Mueller didn't say he didn't obstruct justice!" even though that's a stinking pile of democrat poo too...
The Russians interfered in our elections to help elect Trump. There is considerable evidence of this.
How much Trump and his campaign folks were involved with this is the question.
We still don't have a straight answer to that.
This is a fat stale lie.
This was never true and the idiots who first perpetuated it are going down.
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The Russians ATTACKED OUR HOMELAND.
You can't make that statement too strongly, you can't understate the importance of that finding. What the Russians did was an act of war, an act of cyber-terrorism every bit as destructive and in some ways more damaging that the 9/11 attack. While the loss of life in 9/11 was horrific, it was over and it was done. What the Russians are working to do as they have been ever since WWII, is to destabilize our democracy from within. Bit by bit, year by year they continue to chip away at the underpinnings.
Instead of reacting in outrage as we did for 9/11, Americans stupidly and placidly blunder on, apparently so apathetic that they don't even notice that their President is doing nothing to recognize the Russian cyber-threat and make a plan to protect us against further attacks.
You might not agree with Bush's tactics for getting us into the Gulf War, but at least he had a concrete plan to show America's strength to our enemies. Trump on the other hand is working hard to divide us and make us weaker.
Did Obama do anything about it?
Ooh slama lama snapa snapa.
Yeah, Barack Hussein Obama got more flexible for them.
William Barr:
Deputy attorney-general Rod Rosenstein and I have concluded that the evidence developed during the Special Counsel's investigation is not sufficient to establish that the president committed an obstruction of justice offense.
The Russians interfered in our elections to help elect Trump. There is considerable evidence of this.
How much Trump and his campaign folks were involved with this is the question.
We still don't have a straight answer to that.
HUH? Isn’t that what this massive investigation established?
If you dont believe that, then there is nothing that will get you to believe there was no collusion. You decided in your mind that it happened, and you are not going to change your mind no matter what anybody says.
Barr says there's no evidence the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government. Okay, I can accept that. But what about colluding with WikiLeaks or Guccifer? Interesting that Barr left any mention of that out, especially since we know Roger Stone was in contact with them.
Nothing illegal or even wrong with that. I asked this earlier with no reply. Are you arguing it should have been criminal to release the information that the DNC was cheating for Hillary?
Let me put it in simple terms for you. You go to trial, and you can either be found guilty or not guilty, however, you might also end up with a hung jury. That means some of the people felt you were guilty but others were not so sure. With a hung jury, you could be retried later.
That is what happened here. Within Mueller's scope of operation, he found out a lot of things, but he left the interpretation of those facts up to the next people in line to determine if they were actionable. He did his job, and could not come out at the end and give Trump a clean bill of health, so he left it as it ended up.
Trump, and his followers are stretching that result to mean Trump is in the clear. That is not what this means at all. I realize a lot of people thought Mueller would come to Trump's door and arrest him at the end, but that isn't how it works.
The Russians interfered in our elections to help elect Trump. There is considerable evidence of this.
How much Trump and his campaign folks were involved with this is the question.
We still don't have a straight answer to that.
This is far and away the most important finding of the Mueller investigation but everyone is focused on the so-called "exoneration". We now know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Russia attacked our election system on at least two fronts; troll farms set up to sway public opinion via social media, and secondly a group of Putin-directed hackers that infiltrated Democratic Party servers and other infrastructure right here in our homeland.
With these findings, Trump should be throwing down the gauntlet to Putin, but instead we only hear words of conciliation, and a working plan to remove all our troops from Syria - pretty much a parting gift to Russia and Iran. There is more to this story and the public deserves to see it all. ALL the details of the investigation.
What we have is a 4 page memo written by a Trump lackey.
Well... lets be unbiased about that....
I agree Bill Barr is a republican. He is someone the President nominated/appointed.
Now, lets also put that in context. Mueller didn't submit a report then commit suicide. the list of democrat operatives that worked on the Mueller team weren't put down the day the report was given to Barr.
Considering that Mueller and his team of vicious leftists are still alive and well, one would assume that had Bill Barr covered up nasty stuff in that report, they would all be on CNN squealing like stuck pigs.
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