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Old 03-15-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Luciano700 View Post
Aight


Well the talk about income equality is pretty big right now and especially coming from the liberals


But the halirious irony is that a lot of that of that wealth inequality comes from materialism and bad consumer habits


Also, a lot of financial aid programs end up butt****ing the hell out of those in the poor and working class categories and a lot of these are welfare and safety net programs


See the real root cause of the wealth divide being greater than ever in America cannot be talked in our current political climate due to our agenda driven motivation


Here is some links



https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ialism/522969/


What rising inequality and materialism does to us | Shaping Tomorrows World


https://urbanintellectuals.com/2014/...ack-community/

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/...nalCode=wicm20



Materialism leads to inequality - Gene Expression


https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rom-inside-out


https://aeon.co/ideas/how-materialis...wish-reformers

Please explain how wealth inequality comes from materialism and bad consumer habits.

Then explain how welfare or financial aid hurts the poor and working class.




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And there is more vehicles in blue and larger states too


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List...les_per_capita
Which has nothing to do with the discussion of bicycles. If someone says that more strawberries are bought in Florida, the proper response isn't more pork is bought there too.

 
Old 03-15-2019, 06:06 PM
 
Location: Florida
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This is a weird thread.

In general, conservatives are capitalists who want little to no regulation so that corporations can continue making lots and lots of money. They also want to pay as little as possible in taxes and are happy to give up social benefits such as healthcare for the poor, food stamps for the poor, increased educational funding, etc.

In general, liberals prefer more regulation to even out wealth inequalities and also to protect workers and consumers. They don't mind paying more in taxes in order to ensure that everyone can access affordable healthcare, the poor can eat, children in every city can go to good schools where the teachers are paid well, etc.

From those descriptions, my guess would be that liberals, in general, are less materialistic. They might tend to see people and their needs as more important than money.

However, who knows, really? Going into your local Target and asking people what their political affiliation is likely to give you a good representation of the people who live in your community -- that's about it. If you live in a conservative area, chances are good that the people in your local Target are conservative. And if you live in a liberal area, chances are good that the people in your local Target are liberal.
 
Old 03-15-2019, 06:08 PM
 
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Here is per capita energy use -
https://www.energy.ca.gov/almanac/el...ectricity.html

As one can see, the states that use the least tend liberal (CA, MA, NY) and the states what use 80% to 100% more tend conservative.

What is amazing is how vast the difference is - that a relatively poor citizen in AL would use well over double the electric of someone in NY.....same with KY and WV, people who you'd think could not afford to waste stuff. But they do.

Remember, "conservatives" fight for 100 watt light bulbs that use 100 watts.

Materialism, in a sense, is using more than needed for no good reason at all.
 
Old 03-15-2019, 06:09 PM
 
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Not conservative.
Most Ive spent is on my first car, and a high end pc.
But I find use in those.
I think my only reckless slending is spent on beer but then again beer is non partisan.

Other more expesive thing Ice recently bought was an ipad pro. But it does come in handy for digital illustration on the go. As someone that draw alot, Im enjoying it.

I think real materialism is buying things like jewlry or expensive fasion.


Like nothing wrong with buying clothes you like, but blowing money kn something that’s expensive and the latest fasion is the epitome of materialism if your only goal is to flex your money..
 
Old 03-15-2019, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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This is a weird thread.

In general, conservatives are capitalists who want little to no regulation so that corporations can continue making lots and lots of money. They also want to pay as little as possible in taxes and are happy to give up social benefits such as healthcare for the poor, food stamps for the poor, increased educational funding, etc.

In general, liberals prefer more regulation to even out wealth inequalities and also to protect workers and consumers. They don't mind paying more in taxes in order to ensure that everyone can access affordable healthcare, the poor can eat, children in every city can go to good schools where the teachers are paid well, etc.

From those descriptions, my guess would be that liberals, in general, are less materialistic. They might tend to see people and their needs as more important than money.

However, who knows, really? Going into your local Target and asking people what their political affiliation is likely to give you a good representation of the people who live in your community -- that's about it. If you live in a conservative area, chances are good that the people in your local Target are conservative. And if you live in a liberal area, chances are good that the people in your local Target are liberal.
Except who really controls the majority of corporate America hmmmmm


That's why I placed corporate Democrats first in that hierarchy

Also gimme a break, half of those taxes later end up going into asylums and garbage facilities of any kind


Also you think education and healthcare are improved that way? Not so fast, just think about what kind of healthcare you're getting first
 
Old 03-15-2019, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Originally Posted by craigiri View Post
Here is per capita energy use -
https://www.energy.ca.gov/almanac/el...ectricity.html

As one can see, the states that use the least tend liberal (CA, MA, NY) and the states what use 80% to 100% more tend conservative.

What is amazing is how vast the difference is - that a relatively poor citizen in AL would use well over double the electric of someone in NY.....same with KY and WV, people who you'd think could not afford to waste stuff. But they do.

Remember, "conservatives" fight for 100 watt light bulbs that use 100 watts.

Materialism, in a sense, is using more than needed for no good reason at all.
That's the mental programming of the eco fads though remember that


I will admit though, both the left and the right are just as guilty of our materialistic habits


And I mean look at the same conservatives who end up complaining about illegals, then end up using them as labor slaves
 
Old 03-15-2019, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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Please explain how wealth inequality comes from materialism and bad consumer habits.

Then explain how welfare or financial aid hurts the poor and working class.






Which has nothing to do with the discussion of bicycles. If someone says that more strawberries are bought in Florida, the proper response isn't more pork is bought there too.
Well I suggest reading some of the links
As someone studying socioeconomics, the left and the right are both very good at manipulating economical issues once again in the name of profit for their parties.
 
Old 03-15-2019, 06:26 PM
 
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Except who really controls the majority of corporate America hmmmmm


That's why I placed corporate Democrats first in that hierarchy

Also gimme a break, half of those taxes later end up going into asylums and garbage facilities of any kind


Also you think education and healthcare are improved that way? Not so fast, just think about what kind of healthcare you're getting first
There are only 50,000 state psychiatric beds in the us. The vast majority of mental health hospitals do not accept anything except private insurance or cash pay which is why so many mentally ill end up on the street or in prisons.

The push to get rid institutionalization in the US started during the 50s and 60s, with Reagan cutting federal funding 90% by 1985. The vast majority of our taxes go to pay for national defense 20%, social security 20%, and medicare, medicaid, and CHIP 20%.
 
Old 03-15-2019, 06:27 PM
 
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Well I suggest reading some of the links
As someone studying socioeconomics, the left and the right are both very good at manipulating economical issues once again in the name of profit for their parties.
I would like you to explain your opinion on the topics that you brought up.
 
Old 03-15-2019, 06:28 PM
 
Location: Round Rock, TX
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There are only 50,000 state psychiatric beds in the us. The vast majority of mental health hospitals do not accept anything except private insurance or cash pay which is why so many mentally ill end up on the street or in prisons.

The push to get rid institutionalization in the US started during the 50s and 60s, with Reagan cutting federal funding 90% by 1985. The vast majority of our taxes go to pay for national defense 20%, social security 20%, and medicare, medicaid, and CHIP 20%.
So what kind of economy do you think is the best for America right now?
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