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Old 03-26-2019, 06:52 AM
 
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Where’s the replacement? More Lies?
There can't be a replacement until there is an end to what is in place. No one wants to do it again like Obama did it and shove it down the throats of people. Its going to take both parties to provide a replacement if its going to be worthwhile or lasting.
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:52 AM
 
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So just because Obama lied means its OK for Trump to lie too? Do you think we should have universal healthcare as Candidate Trump suggested or not?
No. Pay for your own stuff.
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:53 AM
 
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Coverage of pre-existing conditions isn't always covered. It's another Obama lie.

I developed a condition half-way through the year, and my insurance company has no specialists in-network. Because of Obamacare, the out-of-network deductible was twice the in-network, so I was on the hook for the first $13,000. And that was separate from the $6,500 in network deductible. IOW, Obama counts me as "insured" even though I had to cover $20,000 of medical expenses and $10,000 in premiums.

I had a much better plan before OBamacare, but Ocare destroyed the private individual market. I had been laying a third in premiums with an affordable $2000 in deductibles.
Without ACA protection you would be uninsurable because now you have a pre-existing condition. Paying full out of pocket would cost you more, or bankrupt you, or you might not be able to be treated until it was too late.
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:54 AM
 
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Without ACA protection you would be uninsurable because now you have a pre-existing condition. Paying full out of pocket would cost you more, or bankrupt you, or you might not be able to be treated until it was too late.
How is that mine or society’s problem?
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:58 AM
 
Location: Florida
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How is that mine or society’s problem?
It's your problem if you develop a condition that makes you uninsurable. And don't be so sure that you won't. Many health issues don't discriminate.
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Old 03-26-2019, 06:58 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Replace it yourself. Not my, or government or Trumps problem.

That's not what the Liar in Chief said time after time after time during his campaign. Then again, con-men are a bottomless pit of BS.
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:01 AM
 
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It's your problem if you develop a condition that makes you uninsurable. And don't be so sure that you won't. Many health issues don't discriminate.
My question still stands. How is that mine or government or Trumps problem?
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:02 AM
 
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That's not what the Liar in Chief said time after time after time during his campaign. Then again, con-men are a bottomless pit of BS.
Ppphhhttt, see my post above.
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:05 AM
 
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Without ACA protection you would be uninsurable because now you have a pre-existing condition. Paying full out of pocket would cost you more, or bankrupt you, or you might not be able to be treated until it was too late.
That's also not true.

I looked up my condition to see what would happen in pre-ACA days. My plan would have declined coverage of it for six months, and then it would pay. But my ACA plan would never pay, because it doesn't have the specialist.

It's a loophole that Obama allowed for insurers not to cover pre-X conditions: they simply don't put that specialist in the network! Voila! So, for example, if you develop rheumatism and the insurer doesn't want to cover that, they simply don't include a rhematologist in their network.

Or, they just have ONE specialist. So let's say you have a retinal condition, and the insurer has ONE retinologist to serve a population of 200,000. The wait is six months. So, you end up going private and paying in cash to someone else. It's a way for insurers to make it so unappealing to use them that you just give up and pay cash.

And Obama allowed all that.
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Old 03-26-2019, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb Trump wants to abolish ACA entirely

It's not just tRump.

Practically the entire GOP wants to get rid of the ACA in addition to Medicare and Social Security.

It's been their wet dream for decades.

Their default position is to oppose whatever favors the public.

Carry on.

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