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Old 03-31-2019, 06:24 AM
 
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So white men are a marginalised minority now and you must believe that male privilege doesn't exist?
It doesn't exist. You're just envious.
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Old 03-31-2019, 06:27 AM
 
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So white men are a marginalised minority now and you must believe that male privilege doesn't exist?
Opps...

Now you attempt to justify the demagoguery too. You are checking off all those "lets start a war" boxes.


Angry? Go look in the mirror.
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Old 03-31-2019, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Anyways, enjoy your Sunday. I didn't come here expecting to find anyone who'd agree with me, but thanks for being civil.

I'm not intentionally being civil. When you insult my nation, the fact I was born white, the society my ancestors provided for you, my right to existence, the boxing gloves come off. Go contribute something meaningful and useful to this world, you hate filled bigot, and please stay in Europe where you belong.
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Old 03-31-2019, 06:34 AM
 
Location: East Midlands, UK
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I'm not intentionally being civil. When you insult my nation, the fact I was born white, the society my ancestors provided for you, my right to existence, the boxing gloves come off and knuckles start flying. Go do something useful with your life you hate filled bigot, and please stay in Europe where you belong.
*hugs*
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Old 03-31-2019, 06:37 AM
 
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I just oppose privilege and the populism that hss plunged the UK and USA back 100 years.
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Okay, I'll be the one to ask. How has this "populism" plunged the UK and USA back 100 years? Be specific.

Still waiting.........
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Old 03-31-2019, 07:17 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Brexit here in the UK and Trump in the USA. Populism has truly taken over the most populous and powerful countries in the Anglosphere that were once looked up to. Why has this happened? If you look at Trump and Brexit, the gatherings are mostly comprised of older generation white people. Why did the most privileged group in society feel the need to push for change?

I guess that's why such people (angry older white males) are afraid of people like Heidi Allen, Jess Philips here in the UK and AOC in the USA. They represent a threat to the real 'establishment'.
The USA has been a Fascist nation, ever since Woodrow Wilson and the year 1913. Who was a populist back then and all the way until Trump?
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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Brexit here in the UK and Trump in the USA. Populism has truly taken over the most populous and powerful countries in the Anglosphere that were once looked up to. Why has this happened? If you look at Trump and Brexit, the gatherings are mostly comprised of older generation white people. Why did the most privileged group in society feel the need to push for change?

I guess that's why such people (angry older white males) are afraid of people like Heidi Allen, Jess Philips here in the UK and AOC in the USA. They represent a threat to the real 'establishment'.
Well Crazy, maybe you should ask yourself, "WHO was doing the looking up to us"?

There you will find the answer as to why we now are Making America Great Again so that we can not only be proud of who we are, but also proud of the fact those "looking up to us" are nations we respect and that respect us.
If they don't respect us, they at least respect our right to decide who we provide aid to.

We are not the teat for nations that abuse our generosity while stabbing us in the back.
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:39 AM
 
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Take a look at Europe. It's weak, and it's dying. Thank Gorge Soros and an overdose of liberalism. Russia will make short work of them, and the only recourse will be to beg America for military help, because they were too limp wristed to invest in their own defense. More important things to do, like flood their continent with migrants and give them welfare and such.

You all should listen to Poland and Hungry more often, instead of socialist short sighted Germany.
Dying?? Fox and talk radio is still selling you that junk, after how many decades now? They lead over us in many quality of life indicators. It's the other way around. Europeans (along with other modern countries) think America is dying.
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Old 03-31-2019, 09:59 AM
 
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Brexit here in the UK and Trump in the USA. Populism has truly taken over the most populous and powerful countries in the Anglosphere that were once looked up to. Why has this happened?
"Populism" is a weasel word for "liberals and Rhinos didn't win an election". Its an antidemocratic terms to describe people who disagree with liberalism. The irony being that liberalism requires that democracy allow non-liberals to win elections.

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If you look at Trump and Brexit, the gatherings are mostly comprised of older generation white people.
Untrue. Its White people across the generational spectrum. The Left has been stating this particular bit of propaganda for decades as a way to give the false impression that somehow conservatism is for "old people" and the "new way" and the future is liberalism. Yet we somehow keep manufacturing "new old white people" after the others die off (from the generation that was supposedely the "liberal future" decades years ago).

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I guess that's why such people (angry older white males) are afraid of people like Heidi Allen, Jess Philips here in the UK and AOC in the USA. They represent a threat to the real 'establishment'.
Lol... what? All of this buildup, and an entire thread started, predicated on "that you don't like our politics means that you are afraid"? Thread fail.

Good people see that immorality and political flaws in social liberalism. That's why they are against it. Furthermore, liberalism is the "real establishment" as we can observe in the recent establishment power behind the attempted coup against Trump.

Again, it bridges demographics.

You didn't even address the fascism that you cited in your thread title. Ergo, this thread is a hot mess given your original post.

I'll do it for you:

You people stopped holding the middle when you started pushing for ever more social craziness across the board.

As soon as you did that, you guaranteed the remergence of reactionary protofascism. That's how social politics works. Abandon, balance, and expect an equal and opposite force to counter. At least as long as White people exist in this nation. There was never going to be any other outcome.

The sad part about it is that smarter people in your camp knew this and pushed it anyway. This was always designed to fracture the nation, and your "younger" contingent has historically been the best one to fool into adopting the views and policies that would enable that throughout the West. As those people get older, they always get wiser. That's when we begin to see people that were on your side of the line on ours.
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Old 03-31-2019, 10:35 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Dying?? Fox and talk radio is still selling you that junk, after how many decades now? They lead over us in many quality of life indicators. It's the other way around. Europeans (along with other modern countries) think America is dying.
Actually when you look at what's happening in the US, and EU, they're both not doing well.

The US needs to stop spending money on foreign wars there's no reason to be involved in as there is no threat to the US, and focus that money elsewhere.

The EU needs to seriously look at it's economy, which is already heading for recession, and a large number of European banks are in the Too Big To Fail category Deutschebank and Commerzbank are in merger talks to try to amortize their debt which is excessive in comparison to their assets. The ECB is issuing warnings, the French are revolting (as in having weekly revolts, not specifically as in they're unpleasant), the Italians are at the point of revolt, Greece is still toast (but then what's new in 2000 years), the Dutch are looking at the rise of populism too the upper house in the Netherlands prime minister has a minority in the upper house, with Geert Wilders Freedom Party and Forum for Democracy, led by Thierry Baudet who has discussed many times why an EU free Netherlands would be better off than in the EU, ideologically similar and holding a combined majority. Then of course there's the UK exit and the financial impacts of that.

Quality of life indicators are all fine and well, but the average and upper standards of living were pretty good in the Roman Empire of 450CE onwards, it wasn't until 464-466 that everyone realized that the SHTF. Often the first sign of a dying nation is a severe dislocation of where they were, to where they are, like for example Argentina in 1998, where in 4 years the economy shrank by 28%, that's pretty mindblowing. If that happened in the US, the GDP would shrink by $5.2T (that's just the shrinkage, not the total GDP).

Salvian wrote of the Roman Empire between 439 and 451.

"Nobody thought of the state’s expenses, nobody thought of the state’s losses, because the cost was not felt. The state itself sought how it might squander what it was already scarcely able to acquire. The heaping up of wealth which had already exceeded its limit was overflowing even into trifling matters."

and continues
"But what can be said of the present-day situation? That old abundances have gone from us. The resources of former times have gone. We are already poverty-stricken, yet we do not cease to be spendthrift."

The description equally applies to the US or EU

Sound familiar...?
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