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Old 03-31-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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The wall and closing the borders keep people in. People that drive down wages so we are all more poor (outside of the ruling class). ie: Communism.
According to the left walls don't work.
If they won't keep people out they can't keep people in either.
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Old 03-31-2019, 11:23 AM
 
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Who in the Untied States is being kept in, or will be kept in if we secure our Southern border? It is very clear you do not understand what you are talking about. Stop spewing false propaganda.
You know who will be kept in. The millions working for sub-legal wages. That's the plan.
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Old 03-31-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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No, SJW is not a rebranding of communism. Communism is an economic system, property ownership, SJW is a means to silence people, groups, and ideas by using an ad hominem, red herring, what ever.

Any group wishing to obtain a goal can use such thing, whether it is communism, capitalism, or whatever goal it is.
What is funny is that some Right-wing leaning people in this country also have that "I am a fan of free speech when it benefits me or my group"-type mentality. So, arguably that might be a form of SJW activity by itself.
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Old 03-31-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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You made no point to dispute. You made a statement, I disagreed. If you would like to show evidence communism is the reason for building the wall, I'll gladly tear your evidence apart. Until you actually have a point to dispute, however, I'll stand by my statement.
It's a better argument than the one presented. LOL, trying to argue that helping the lower classes and the poor is Communistic. Seriously? LOL

Policies that drive down wages to benefit the ruling class is far closer.
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Old 03-31-2019, 11:31 AM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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It's a better argument than the one presented. LOL, trying to argue that helping the lower classes and the poor is Communistic. Seriously? LOL

Policies that drive down wages to benefit the ruling class is far closer.
So limiting the number of people who are either willing or forced to work for lower wages will drive wages down? Please, continue to regale us with your economic genius.
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Old 03-31-2019, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Bronx
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We're always told by Communists that Communism never succeeded because "it was never implemented properly" or something to that effect.

This feels a lot like the arguments that people make for Gender Equality and other variations of Equality Of Outcome.

For example, I heard a statistic recently that 147/150 of the unicorn startup companies (startups valued at over $1 billion) today are founded by men and the remaining 3/150 are co-founded by husband-wife couples.

This is because "we still don't have equality of opportunity"?
No. Communism is not about inclusion, redestribution of equity and representation. Karl Marx never advocated for such in his communist manifesto. Social justice of today is just a new toxic religion festered by white guilt, pro feminism, pro black, believes in redistribution of all equity, inclusion of all people, and representation.

Sadly I wonder if these sjws remember the 90s.

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Old 03-31-2019, 11:35 AM
 
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So limiting the number of people who are either willing or forced to work for lower wages will drive wages down? Please, continue to regale us with your economic genius.
We aren't doing that. I'm not interested in empty promises.
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Old 03-31-2019, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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No more than MAGA is the rebranding of Mussolini and fascism.
MAGA is Stalinism, not fascism.
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Old 03-31-2019, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Farmers in America provide a ton of food for the world. Take that away, and hundreds of millions of people will starve to death. Don't belittle the American farmer, whose entire way of life demands sacrifice. These folks deal with hardships that most of us would never tolerate. It's no surprise that farmers have some of the highest suicide rates among occupations. Farmers deserve our help in their moment of need. The benefit to you is cheap, readily available food. Be thankful, not hateful.
IDGAF about their "hardships."

They made that choice of line of work, and they should have to compete on the market like everyone else.

It's fascinating to me how so-called "conservatives" and leftist MAGAs think the State should centrally-plan agriculture through subsidies and income theft.

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Import taxes have always been a part of America. So if you think this makes America communist, than it has always been communist. You seem to believe that any form of organized, regulated society is communist, which means your logic is flawed by most people's standard. You can believe what you want, but don't expect others to subscribe to your ideology.
Exhibit #458438473 of why conservatism/MAGA is socialism in denial.

The Intellectual Incoherence of Conservatism

The U.S. has never been communist, but has been socialist since 1913. Before that it was at least somewhat laissez-faire.

An organized, regulated society is by definition Statism unless it is 100% voluntary. It's only illogical to brainwashed Statists indoctrinated in government schools.
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Old 03-31-2019, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Denver, CO
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Some aren’t true.

I agree there are some bad policies from the right, and I will stand with you to fight them.

The real question is will you stand with to fight against all policies from the Democrats?
I do all the time.

The difference is that Democrats at least shove their collectivism in your face and for the most part are honest about their evil, so they're easy to spot and destroy...

So-called "conservatives" and MAGA put on a front of being capitalist, free-market, etc., but in reality are just as leftist as Democrats. That's why they are a bigger threat to liberty and why I attack them so much more harshly. They're wolves in sheeps' clothing.
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