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Why on earth would having a high IQ make you a better person?
It doesn't. And those who focus on it are missing the bigger picture.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
There are two basic types of IQ tests.
That is more-or-less the SAT and the ACT. The SAT is an aptitude test, which is supposed to measure something similar to IQ. While ACT tests only measure what you've learned.
With that said, if you score well on an IQ test, you'll generally score equally-well on the SAT and the ACT. But if the ACT is primarily rote memorization, then why do minorities do so poorly on it? Even Thomas Jefferson believed blacks were equal in memory to whites.
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent
Raven's Progressive Matrices is a good example of a fluid intelligence IQ test. It's non-verbal, so there is no cultural bias.
A lot of IQ-tests are just pattern-recognition. But on an actual IQ test you are being "timed". People with high IQ's don't just get the question correct, they find the answer quickly. The difference between 120 IQ and 160 IQ is not accuracy, but speed.
I also mentioned "abstract-thinking". Part of the problem with learning is that we always assume that there is only one answer. Or basically, that there are rules that you must follow, or a formula.
Many people can do incredibly-well on intelligence-tests because they can understand and follow these rules and conventions. They can arrive at the "correct" answer, but they have a difficult time "thinking outside the box".
Abstract-thinking is where you can understand multiple ideas and rule-sets and integrate them into something new. Many people who score incredibly-highly on IQ tests, lack abstract-thinking.
Thanks for asking. The point is that our modern civilization, which runs on science, is more fragile than we think. Vast numbers of people, including most women and the vast majority of blacks, are completely clueless about science. They have no understanding of how or why anything works, and are in no position to help sustain us, let alone move us forward. We rely on a relatively small, mostly male, white and Asian group of individuals to do this. We all depend on them, yet there is an ever growing movement to "decolonize" and end the "patriarchy" in science, to push out the competent men and install a gender and racially proportionate STEM workforce. As the results of the survey indicate, this movement is based on a premise that is utterly false. There is no equality or proportionality when it comes to understanding science.
And DAMN black people are seriously uneducated when it comes to science and math.
No, you're just ignorant.
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African immigrants to the US are among the most educated groups in the United States. Some 48.9 percent of all African immigrants hold a college diploma.
So, it's not all "black people" it's simply an African American subculture that doesn't value education and romanticizes rebellion and criminalization.
It doesn't. And those who focus on it are missing the bigger picture.
That is more-or-less the SAT and the ACT. The SAT is an aptitude test, which is supposed to measure something similar to IQ. While ACT tests only measure what you've learned.
With that said, if you score well on an IQ test, you'll generally score equally-well on the SAT and the ACT. But if the ACT is primarily rote memorization, then why do minorities do so poorly on it? Even Thomas Jefferson believed blacks were equal in memory to whites.
A lot of IQ-tests are just pattern-recognition. But on an actual IQ test you are being "timed". People with high IQ's don't just get the question correct, they find the answer quickly. The difference between 120 IQ and 160 IQ is not accuracy, but speed.
I also mentioned "abstract-thinking". Part of the problem with learning is that we always assume that there is only one answer. Or basically, that there are rules that you must follow, or a formula.
Many people can do incredibly-well on intelligence-tests because they can understand and follow these rules and conventions. They can arrive at the "correct" answer, but they have a difficult time "thinking outside the box".
Abstract-thinking is where you can understand multiple ideas and rule-sets and integrate them into something new. Many people who score incredibly-highly on IQ tests, lack abstract-thinking.
So, it's not all "black people" it's simply an African American subculture that doesn't value education and romanticizes rebellion and criminalization.
Additionally, the focus of African-Americans was on social justice for so long due to their mistreatment in the U.S. However, things are slowly changing as the opportunities have grown and with groups like Nigerians and others of African origin pursuing careers in STEM.
In fact, just this week my friend (who has a STEM career) told me his brother was accepted into MIT’s grad program (STEM). They are both African-American. Times change, as do people’s focal points. I’m part of the first generation born in the U.S. My sister and a number of my cousins are in STEM - all of African descent.
What is particularly interesting about the OP is that he constantly chooses to focus on “blacks” when Hispanics comprise an even smaller percentage of the STEM workforce. Yet he has had nothing to say about them, perhaps because the majority of them are non-black. In fact, half of Hispanics in the U.S. are white. He steers clear of discussing them because that does not fit his narrative.
Makes you wonder how humanity lasted 200,000 years without "scientific" knowledge. Black people already did their part in science by inventing humans. Quite a scientific feat.
That is more-or-less the SAT and the ACT. The SAT is an aptitude test, which is supposed to measure something similar to IQ. While ACT tests only measure what you've learned.
With that said, if you score well on an IQ test, you'll generally score equally-well on the SAT and the ACT. But if the ACT is primarily rote memorization, then why do minorities do so poorly on it? Even Thomas Jefferson believed blacks were equal in memory to whites.
Because the ACT isn't primarily rote memorization. Especially the science section in which one must look at the facts presented and make inferences. In general, if one cannot reason, one will bomb the ACT. Just memorizing facts won't help.
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A lot of IQ-tests are just pattern-recognition. But on an actual IQ test you are being "timed". People with high IQ's don't just get the question correct, they find the answer quickly. The difference between 120 IQ and 160 IQ is not accuracy, but speed.
I also mentioned "abstract-thinking". Part of the problem with learning is that we always assume that there is only one answer. Or basically, that there are rules that you must follow, or a formula.
Many people can do incredibly-well on intelligence-tests because they can understand and follow these rules and conventions. They can arrive at the "correct" answer, but they have a difficult time "thinking outside the box".
Again, that's because what you describe tests crystallized intelligence, IOW... how much one knows. They fail to measure how capable one is of applying what one knows using abstract thinking in new/unique problems/situations.
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Abstract-thinking is where you can understand multiple ideas and rule-sets and integrate them into something new. Many people who score incredibly-highly on IQ tests, lack abstract-thinking.
IQ tests that test fluid intelligence identify the high IQ abstract thinkers.
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