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Mueller found that Trump tried to control the investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election and encouraged witnesses not to cooperate.
The unredacted portion of the report outlined 10 episodes of possible obstruction of justice by Trump, including
ordering Comey to drop the FBI investigation into Flynn,
directing the White House counsel to fire Mueller,
dictating a message to AG Sessions to limit the Mueller probe,
telling witnesses publicly not to cooperate,
attempting to hide emails exposing Trump Jr.’s meeting with Russians for “dirt” on Hillary Clinton, ...
Couldn't rep you again. So Trumpers think all is good and this is the way a "president" upholds the laws of this country?
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Originally Posted by Daryl_G
This report required me to either believe the President was very good at dodging responsibility for his campaign working with Wikileaks, meetings with Russians, sharing polling data, ect.
Or
The President and his men are soo inept and stupid that they didn't know they were being played by a Russian intelligence organization. That would mean we have one of the dumbest Presidents and staff to ever be elected.
Either way this is crazy.
Of course, but Trump is crazy and so are his supporters. They live in an alternate universe of bad is good.
And, of course, true to his pattern Barr completely misrepresented the actual views, facts, and conclusions of the Mueller report.
Mueller clearly stated it was NOT in his purview - or that of the Justice Dept. - to arrive at a decision on the president's actions because of the OLC opinion.
Mueller expected Congress to do that. Period. Full Stop.
Barr, fixer that he is, ARROGATED the powers of Congress unto himself.
Barr should be impeached and immediately removed from office.
try me. Mueller on his report makes a case for and against obstruction and punts the ball to the AG and Deputy AG. Forget collusion or conspiracy.
that's like trying to convict Nixon for obstruction when nobody had been arrested or charged for the Watergate break in........good luck.
Ok - I'll bite. You still haven't posted anything from the source document.
See, unlike you, I am more concerned with the president not being a scumbag - not that he just manages to barely clear the bar of not doing anything illegal enough for a prosecutor to be willing to bring charges against a sitting president.
Actually reading the report's descriptions of Trump's behavior makes it very clear that he is indeed a scumbag.
It appears to be the latter and that is why there were no indictments.
Mueller's role was not to indict Trump. In fact, DOJ policy is fairly clear on not indicting a sitting President. Barr had made it clear he wasn't entertaining any obstruction of justice business either.
Mueller's role was to investigate and report.
Oversight is up to Congress. That's their role. Whether they will do it or not remains to be seen.
I see no evidence that Trump fans are actually reading the report.
They are posting a steady stream of insults and delusional fantasies about Barr's pronouncements being the end of it.
It is as clear as crystal that they are just parroting talking points. Mueller left a road map for Congress and Congress will procced as they are mandated to do.
The legal questions are settled and done. The only recourse for the democrats now is impeachment. If they do try that they better get it done or they will pay bitterly come election time. They are loud and desperate and now we will see if they are stupid too. This is the place where most people just tune them out and get on with their lives and real issues that are important to them.
they don't have the votes to convict and Mueller's report is weak under cross-examination. Mueller has NO case on collusion or conspiracy and on obstruction, he makes the case for and against and refused to make the call.
Remember this is a 1 sided report with NO cross-examination. If this goes to trial in the Senate, it will be taken apart one by one.
Just by Mueller testifying in the Senate and house and answer questions will let Democrats know how weak Mueller's case is.
Couldn't rep you again. So Trumpers think all is good and this is the way a "president" upholds the laws of this country?
Of course, but Trump is crazy and so are his supporters. They live in an alternate universe of bad is good.
How in the world did 30% of our population get this way?
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