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Old 04-21-2019, 03:32 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Just like they didn't drop nukes on Japan and aren't drone bombing babies in Asia and Africa.
The nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki WERE justified. So are drone strikes against terrorists and in fact I wouldn't be opposed to using drones to target drug cartels in Mexico. I do believe that American lives come first when it comes to us vs foreign countries.

 
Old 04-21-2019, 03:33 AM
 
Location: The Heart of Dixie
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Lets ot forget Louis Frehs part in it. The Davidsians were executed for the unpardonable crime of being different and having firearms. Just like Randy Weavers wife and son at Ruby Ridge. At Ruby Ridge Lo Horiuchi was a wacko looking for an excuse to pull the trigger and Reno and Freh gave it to him. I don't recall the names of the agents that killed his son. I think they were ATF and Horiuchi was FBI.


It was the shadow of Waco and Ruby Ridge that kept the standoff at the Bundy ranch from being another bloodbath. It takes a pretty extreme government apologist to justify something like Waco. Koresh may have been a nut and his followers gullible but that's hardly even a crime let alone one deserving of a death sentence in the field.
But remember how the feds killed LaVoy Finicum in cold blood in Oregon after he had surrendered? If that was a black man killed that way by local cops somewhere Obama would be outraged and BLM would be rioting everywhere and the liberal media would be supporting the rioters.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 05:31 AM
 
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The nuclear bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki WERE justified. So are drone strikes against terrorists and in fact I wouldn't be opposed to using drones to target drug cartels in Mexico. I do believe that American lives come first when it comes to us vs foreign countries.
Do you know why Truman said he dropped the bombs after his generals said it was not necessary? He said, "we paid $6 million for them, we are going to use them".
 
Old 04-21-2019, 05:32 AM
 
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But remember how the feds killed LaVoy Finicum in cold blood in Oregon after he had surrendered? If that was a black man killed that way by local cops somewhere Obama would be outraged and BLM would be rioting everywhere and the liberal media would be supporting the rioters.
Finicum pulled a gun.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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They attacked a compound full of people to arrest a man for questionable reasons. A man they could have easily arrested outside the compound many times.
They didn't set the fire.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 07:19 AM
 
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Finicum pulled a gun.
No he didn't, there is video that contradicts your statement and even if he did, he was defending himself against men who were trying to shoot him.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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No he didn't, there is video that contradicts your statement and even if he did, he was defending himself against men who were trying to shoot him.
That's not true, yet another sovereign citizen that refused to surrender and let this take its course in the courts. Always better to pull a gun and attack authorities because you don't trust the justice system.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 07:28 AM
 
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That's not true, yet another sovereign citizen that refused to surrender and let this take its course in the courts. Always better to pull a gun and attack authorities because you don't trust the justice system.
Well go sit in the corner with the other poster that claimed Fincum pulled a gun. The video is out there that contradicts both of your claims.
I don't recommend anyone pull a gun or directly confront govt gang members. They have a monopoly on violence and can get away with shooting someone for holding a ham sandwich.

By the way, when being shot at or attacked, its instinctive for one to protect themselves. None of the govt agents were under threat from Finicum, his weapon was holstered
 
Old 04-21-2019, 07:51 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Well go sit in the corner with the other poster that claimed Fincum pulled a gun. The video is out there that contradicts both of your claims.
I don't recommend anyone pull a gun or directly confront govt gang members. They have a monopoly on violence and can get away with shooting someone for holding a ham sandwich.

By the way, when being shot at or attacked, its instinctive for one to protect themselves. None of the govt agents were under threat from Finicum, his weapon was holstered
He could have just surrendered like a normal person, instead he ran from his car and pulled his gun.
 
Old 04-21-2019, 07:59 AM
 
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He could have just surrendered like a normal person, instead he ran from his car and pulled his gun.
And you could just quit lying
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