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Old 04-23-2019, 06:55 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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They were all vaccinated. Vaccines don't cause problems for all.
The body of evidence says that vaccines do not cause autism.

Your experience is consistent with the genetic effects of "advanced paternal age" on the risk of autism.

https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/li...ism-explained/

"Sperm divide more often than egg cells do. With each division, a cell’s DNA is copied, presenting an opportunity for mutations to occur. One analysis of families in Iceland showed that with each passing year, a man transmits an average of two more spontaneous, or de novo, mutations to his child.

Studies in mice confirm that pups of older male mice harbor a relatively large number of mutations. And this hypothesis is consistent with the observation that a child with autism who has an older father tends to be the only child with autism in that family."

The article notes that mutations do not account for all of the effect of paternal age, possibly about 20%. If you would not mind sharing, has your child's doctor mentioned your having any Aspergerish traits yourself??

 
Old 04-23-2019, 06:58 PM
 
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Everyone should be questioning the huge PR propaganda push for vaccines lately. It isn't for your own "well-being" and we aren't in Kansas anymore.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 06:59 PM
 
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The body of evidence says that vaccines do not cause autism.

Your experience is consistent with the genetic effects of "advanced paternal age" on the risk of autism.

https://www.spectrumnews.org/news/li...ism-explained/

"Sperm divide more often than egg cells do. With each division, a cell’s DNA is copied, presenting an opportunity for mutations to occur. One analysis of families in Iceland showed that with each passing year, a man transmits an average of two more spontaneous, or de novo, mutations to his child.

Studies in mice confirm that pups of older male mice harbor a relatively large number of mutations. And this hypothesis is consistent with the observation that a child with autism who has an older father tends to be the only child with autism in that family."

The article notes that mutations do not account for all of the effect of paternal age, possibly about 20%. If you would not mind sharing, has your child's doctor mentioned your having any Aspergerish traits yourself??
No such traits. And no one can explain the regression after the vaccines. His doctor even noted that he noticed the regression. Still have the paperwork.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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No such traits. And no one can explain the regression after the vaccines. His doctor even noted that he noticed the regression. Still have the paperwork.
How long ago was that?
 
Old 04-23-2019, 07:12 PM
 
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Everyone should be questioning the huge PR propaganda push for vaccines lately. It isn't for your own "well-being" and we aren't in Kansas anymore.
Um it is because diseases that were gone in the USA are now experiencing a resurgence because of the growth of anti- vaxxers
 
Old 04-23-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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How long ago was that?
22 years, back before doctors were brainwashed.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 08:25 PM
 
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Everyone should be questioning the huge PR propaganda push for vaccines lately. It isn't for your own "well-being" and we aren't in Kansas anymore.
I see it everyday online...I spend a lot of time trying to educate the sheeple...in the end its not my issue. I don't get vaccinated neither does wife and neither do our children and we never will...that crap is full of poison and with the government protecting an ENTIRE industry so they can make more profits off of people suffering I ain't going along for that ride...people can do as they please but none for my family. Funny thing is we are healthier than most people as well. Other than simple colds or allergies we don't get sick.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 08:38 PM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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Doctors lie about vaccinations. That is more than enough reason to not trust them. Maybe .001% or less get harmed. Fair enough. But I have heard doctors all my life say vaccines have zero side effects and that they couldn't possibly harm a person. How could that be when it is right there on the insert? I understand it's like the stock market. If a big analyst or Kramer says it's falling and get out, they could like spark a panic, a self-fulfilling prophecy. They will use more tepid language, use caution, proceed carefully, buckle up or so forth. But they realize with their words they can bring it all down. I know doctors lie so they don't inspire false fear and then create a real public health crisis by causing an epidemic. But the fact is they lie when they say they are 100% safe. They are liars and I don't trust them and encourage everyone to do their homework.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There have been many, many children like my son, whose development was normal until after the vaccines. Because of my age when he was born(47) and the fact that he was a preemie, he had extensive testing for development and was normal or above average for all until after he started getting vaccines. Then he regressed rapidly. My son's specialist said that he had seen this numerous times.
See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changeling
See section "In the Modern World"

More scholarly sources: https://adc.bmj.com/content/90/3/271
https://hekint.org/2017/01/30/from-c...pular-culture/
https://www.researchgate.net/publica...sm_in_folklore

There has always been regressive autism.
 
Old 04-23-2019, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Tyler, Texas
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Um it is because diseases that were gone in the USA are now experiencing a resurgence because of the growth of anti- vaxxers
They're making a comeback because we lack any immigration controls and we are having thousands of people come in daily from countries where these diseases are endemic.

Moreover, the establishment itself admits that vaccines are not 100%. Thus it is not correct to say that it is only from unvaccination, like it has occurred in a vacuum. The less-than-100% efficacy of vaccination is a confounding variable and accounts for at least some of the infections. To be sure, we'd need to see the data for ourselves which won't happen because most of the infected children will be children who had vaccinations. The realization of such data would kick off a cascade which by itself could precipitate a public health crisis much worse than what we are seeing now. Again, as I have been illustrating, there is a careful balance between truth and half-truths, one which can causes crises and the other which has the power to prevent crises. Public health officials (and economists) do not have an easy task. In the words of Col. Jessup, "You can't handle the truth!"
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