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Old 04-22-2019, 12:33 PM
 
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They didn't know she had this mitochondrial condition. Are you arguing that every child should be assessed for mitochondrial disorders before being vaccinated?
That wouldn't be the worst idea. Older people, too. I'll bet some valuable information would come out of that.

 
Old 04-22-2019, 12:43 PM
 
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I'm arguing that what we do might not be the best way for everyone.
And how do we address that? Do we test every child for mitochondrial disorders? Because that's the only way to address this particular child's issue, isn't it?
 
Old 04-22-2019, 12:49 PM
 
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measles, mumps, rubella, polio, varicella, diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus, and Haemophilus influenzae

Have they added mitochondrial condition to all the PIs of all these vaccines as a reason not to use those vaccines so no other child will be harmed?
1 in 5000 people has it. This could potentially answer some questions. It may not CAUSE Autism or learning delays but it may aggravate what causes it if it's indeed due to the mitochondrial disorder. That's a pretty big find and may answer some much-needed questions for parents with kids who changed behavior and physical condition after a round of vaccines.

So nice this case made it though, it's a big win all the way around.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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And how do we address that? Do we test every child for mitochondrial disorders? Because that's the only way to address this particular child's issue, isn't it?
Tests are available for Mitochondrial disease. Any child with symptoms of mitochondrial disease—such as failure to thrive, short stature, poor stamina, developmental delay, seizures, poor muscle tone, vomiting, severe constipation or diarrhea - should be able to apply for a medical exemption until it is properly screened for. Genetic testing is making it easier to diagnose.



Testing & Diagnosis for Mitochondrial Disease in Children | Boston Children's Hospital


 
Old 04-22-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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And how do we address that? Do we test every child for mitochondrial disorders? Because that's the only way to address this particular child's issue, isn't it?
One in 5,000 individuals has a genetic mitochondrial disease. Symptoms, diagnosis, and treatment are discussed.https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...drial-diseases

I doubt they'd test for it. That's a lot of kids with it.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 12:52 PM
 
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Tests are available for Mitochondrial disease. Any child with symptoms of mitochondrial disease—such as failure to thrive, short stature, poor stamina, developmental delay, seizures, poor muscle tone, vomiting, severe constipation or diarrhea - should be able to apply for a medical exemption until it is properly screened for. Genetic testing is making it easier to diagnose.



Testing & Diagnosis for Mitochondrial Disease in Children | Boston Children's Hospital


That's really good news.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 12:57 PM
 
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I did not miss that at all.

Since they have now determined that children with mitiochondrial disorders suffer irreparable harm from vaccination, why haven't the vaccine manufacturers added a warning?

Why aren't doctors demanding protections for their patients?

Were they able to figure out which vaccine did the damage?

They are investigating this case right?
The case has been thoroughly investigated. The link in the OP is from 2010.

Nope, they have not determined that "children with mitiochondrial disorders suffer irreparable harm from vaccination".

It is recommended that children with mitochondrial disorders take vaccines because the risk to them is greater from VPDs than from vaccines. Sources already given in a previous reply to you. One is repeated here.

Statement on Autism, Vaccines & Mitochondrial Disease | Mitochondrial Disease Action Committee - MitoAction

"Vaccinations are critical in protecting the health of our children. All children, even those with suspected or known mitochondrial diseases, should receive the recommended vaccinations. The risks of these communicable illnesses outweigh the risk of vaccine-related reactions."
 
Old 04-22-2019, 01:04 PM
 
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And how do we address that? Do we test every child for mitochondrial disorders? Because that's the only way to address this particular child's issue, isn't it?

A mitochondrial disorder is not a contraindication to vaccination. The risk of VPDs is worse than the risk of the vaccine.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 01:24 PM
 
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And how do we address that? Do we test every child for mitochondrial disorders? Because that's the only way to address this particular child's issue, isn't it?
I have no idea but we don't get that answer until we ask the question.
 
Old 04-22-2019, 02:12 PM
 
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I have no idea but we don't get that answer until we ask the question.
Winning this case is a great start. I imagine if your child is tested and has it then a medical exemption will be given. If not, you might have the legal right to go to court over it.

I'm not saying it will be easy, fighting the government (one size fits all) mandates never is but this case does bring hope to those parents who know their kids were fine playing one day and dramatically different after their vaccines.
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