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Old 04-24-2019, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Japan
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LOL at two of the most fanatical, TDS-motivated, persecution complex suffering lefty posters here lecturing the board on how they must just accept the way of the world.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:49 PM
 
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That's the nature of the beast. It's a similar thing with academia. In a free market society, academia and the media will lean to the left since the nature of those career paths generally lead a person towards a progressive worldview. That's just something that happens when people are exposed to a wide variety of cultures, worldviews, lifestyles, etc. But many of the institutions that people view as the backbone of our society lean to the right. Institutions such as the church, the military, the police, and the corporate world lean to the right. In a free market society, it will always be that way.

To force the media to become more conservative or the right-wing institutions to become more progressive would require government intervention that would be unconstitutional and would amount to tyranny.

Agree or disagree?
That is laugh out loud funny. Academia exposed a wide variety of worldviews? Are you joking?
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:52 PM
 
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But, yes, it seems to be true that more educated people lean left, which I suppose must be interpreted as meaning that their clearer understanding indicates that left is the way to go.
This is what the educated folks like to call a failure of logic.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:55 PM
 
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That's what we get for letting these media companies morph into monopolies. All media monopolies should be broken, left and right. Especially FB.
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Old 04-24-2019, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Bronx
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The industries that are left and agree with progressive and or intersectional agendas are academia, media, journalism, publishing, tech, social media and entertainment. The industries that are right wing are the clergy except for the black American church, Judiasm , Muslims are part of the left and catholic church which is probably center. Security apparatus such as military, policing and security is right wing. Industries that are center are transportation, Healthcare. Corporate world tends to lean center, but with so many sjws getting hired for jobs, sjws and feminists are trying to take corporations to the left. The corporations sjws are taking left are mainly media and entertainment.

CNN and msnbc are left but not progressive left, CNN and msnbc do have intersectional anchors like lesbian Rachal Maddow and gay Don lemon. My thing is this. If CNN is so left and so woke. Why did CNN fire commentator mark Lamont Hill for his opinions on Isreal?

Problem with biased news is that they tend to report false information. We saw this with the Mueller report, and with covington catholic school boys. MSM is not the only one. Social media news outlets such as tyt post false information, as well as sjw news outlets like Vox, vice and huff post post false, fake news which can be dangerous. Even the beloved democracy now posts false information.
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Old 04-24-2019, 10:31 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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The Media, Entertainment, Education, Tech, Corporate America, Wall Street, and most of Government are Far Left Progressive, not "liberal". Most of America does not agree, nor want that.
I agree with these except for corporate America and Wall St.
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Old 04-24-2019, 10:49 PM
 
Location: Middle of the valley
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There was an interesting explanation on the evolution of media. They always leaned left, but in an effort to be unbiased they invited right leaning guests on. Problem started when the official media continued to try and be as unbiased as possible (as journalists should be), but the right leaning guests did not feel the same obligation, this begat the Rush Limbaughs and such.

I forget what book it was discussed in.

But just because a journalist leans a certain way, it does not mean they are not reporting facts. There are journalists that lean both directions that I will read and agree with.

Some do more than "lean." There are agencies that monitor news organizations, and see how many inflammatory words they use and other indicators that the agency is biased. I always look up a news organization if I am not familiar with them. If they are rated well (fair and accurate) I will put more weight in what I read even if I disagree. I try not to read ANY that are poorly rated.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:18 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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There was an interesting explanation on the evolution of media. They always leaned left, but in an effort to be unbiased they invited right leaning guests on. Problem started when the official media continued to try and be as unbiased as possible (as journalists should be), but the right leaning guests did not feel the same obligation, this begat the Rush Limbaughs and such.

I forget what book it was discussed in.

But just because a journalist leans a certain way, it does not mean they are not reporting facts. There are journalists that lean both directions that I will read and agree with.

Some do more than "lean." There are agencies that monitor news organizations, and see how many inflammatory words they use and other indicators that the agency is biased. I always look up a news organization if I am not familiar with them. If they are rated well (fair and accurate) I will put more weight in what I read even if I disagree. I try not to read ANY that are poorly rated.
Yeah, conservatives are allowed their media but they believe they are being persecuted just because liberal media exists. Talk radio is almost exclusively conservative for that matter. They tried liberal talk radio back last decade and it never caught on.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:27 PM
 
Location: Texas
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That's the nature of the beast. It's a similar thing with academia. In a free market society, academia and the media will lean to the left since the nature of those career paths generally lead a person towards a progressive worldview. That's just something that happens when people are exposed to a wide variety of cultures, worldviews, lifestyles, etc. But many of the institutions that people view as the backbone of our society lean to the right. Institutions such as the church, the military, the police, and the corporate world lean to the right. In a free market society, it will always be that way.

To force the media to become more conservative or the right-wing institutions to become more progressive would require government intervention that would be unconstitutional and would amount to tyranny.

Agree or disagree?
A progressive "world view"? World view? Becoming more progressive means you already do want government intervention because you aren't adult enough to make it. So those people want government to raise them from cradle to grave and to not be responsible for their own lives? lol That's what children want.
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Old 04-24-2019, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Yeah, conservatives are allowed their media but they believe they are being persecuted just because liberal media exists. Talk radio is almost exclusively conservative for that matter. They tried liberal talk radio back last decade and it never caught on.
Because on talk radio they discuss policy from time to time. That's something you and the other progressives wont do since it would expose your policies as failures.

But who will look after me if government wont?
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