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Old 05-11-2019, 09:28 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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The mere presence of USS Abraham Lincoln and its flotilla will assure there won't be a war. Have the revolutionary guard's little boats been circling US warships since Obama left office? And to those who say Iran has not hurt the US, Iran is, directly and indirectly, responsible for thousands of American deaths. The Islamic state is an expansionist regime that does not recognize national boundaries. Anywhere in the world there is a struggle between Isalm and the nonbelievers, they have a duty to join in. It's a tenet of Isalm. That's why they are in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, and Gaza.
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Old 05-11-2019, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Flyover Country
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And to those who say Iran has not hurt the US, Iran is, directly and indirectly, responsible for thousands of American deaths.
Absolute, 100% propaganda. Pure garbage. Something Bolton would say.

Is that you John?
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Old 05-12-2019, 05:51 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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How so? He hasn't started any pointless wars of choice like Bush & Obama which got 10s of 1000s killed for nothing. Care to comment on that?

Let's add it up.

Pointless Wars of Choice
  • Bush - Iraq (1)
  • Obama - Syria, Libya, Yemen, move 150,000 troops into Afghanstan (4)
  • Trump - (0)
Clearly Trump is your man given the very standard you just set.
TDS doesn't admit of that, or any, thought process.
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Old 05-12-2019, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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The mere presence of USS Abraham Lincoln and its flotilla will assure there won't be a war. Have the revolutionary guard's little boats been circling US warships since Obama left office? And to those who say Iran has not hurt the US, Iran is, directly and indirectly, responsible for thousands of American deaths. The Islamic state is an expansionist regime that does not recognize national boundaries. Anywhere in the world there is a struggle between Isalm and the nonbelievers, they have a duty to join in. It's a tenet of Isalm. That's why they are in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, and Gaza.
I am still waiting on the details of the supposed threat from a country thousands of miles away with a military that is small fraction of ours. This all sounds contrived and short on specifics.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Metro Seattle Area - Born and Raised
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With the entire world watching the US continues to go after oil rich countries. Comrade Trump revs up his posse against Iran in order to redirect their attention. There just might be a problem with action against Iran and that is that both Russia and China also have an interest. The US playing silly games just might bring us to nuclear war. Regardless, any kind of conflict will result in the loss of American lives. Many will be your children and grandchildren who will be sacrificed for nothing more than a political stunt.

Comrade Trump looks more and more like Hitler everyday.
Ha!! Toooooo funny... Comrade Trump? That's a big WRONG!!

Your shining Knight, Bernie S. met with Soviet-Russian officials DURING the height of the Cold War in the mid 80s in Russia. I would bet money that he also met with Russian intellegence officers during his vacation in his Mother Russia too.

You and your Leftist lies are simply lies... I don't know if you care about facts, but here are two. This Russian/Trump connection is only a myth... I think there is more truth in Big Foot than what the MSM is telling all the low information Americans who are not capable of thinking for themselves. AND!! Comparing him to Hitler is soooo Leftist. FYI, it doesn't work anymore since you gays/gals on the Left has over used it till it has ZERO effect. The only thing you're missing is calling him a racist, which is also played out by the Left.

Out of curioisity, you do realize that Trump has several close family members who are Jewish and that Israel loves him more than any other modern U.S. president? Not the makings of a good nazis or racist. IMHO.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:17 AM
 
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A big discussion a year and a half ago was whether Trump would start a war in an effort to get re-elected.

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And yet. No war. As usual these Trump doomsayers are wrong yet again.

Obama started 4 wars of choice. Many many 1000s dead for nothing. Leftists are silent about it. Get mad when it's mentioned. Say it's not the same as imaginary war that Trump hasn't started. "Orange Man Bad" for Imaginary war. LOL

And by War I mean moving in the troops.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:41 AM
 
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The mere presence of USS Abraham Lincoln and its flotilla will assure there won't be a war.
The USS Abraham Lincoln was already assigned to the 5th Fleet and was already on station or was on the way (the Navy is cagey about identifying the precise location of its at-sea assets). There wasn't actually a change in that regard--the administration merely characterized it differently for political reasons.

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Have the revolutionary guard's little boats been circling US warships since Obama left office? And to those who say Iran has not hurt the US, Iran is, directly and indirectly, responsible for thousands of American deaths. The Islamic state is an expansionist regime that does not recognize national boundaries. Anywhere in the world there is a struggle between Isalm and the nonbelievers, they have a duty to join in. It's a tenet of Isalm. That's why they are in Lebanon, Syria, Yemen, Iraq, and Gaza.
Actually, no. You don't understand that there is more than one "Islam" and the one that has been threatening the West is the one bankrolled and propelled by Saudi Arabia. Sunni Muslims do not "join in" to Shiite Muslim salients and vice versa. They kill each other.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:45 AM
 
Location: East of the Burgh.
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Boy, you Conservatives, Republicans and Trump acolytes want an Iranian War REAL bad, don’t cha?

Why, I don’t know. It’s an L for us right off the bat, and a really bad and embarrassing one at that. We can’t win it. The Trump-Bolton-Pompeo troika won’t tell you that, but I thought that you should know.

Tell your president to cool his heels before he gets us into another intractable conflict that we’ll never get out of and can’t win. Don’t know what you guys find so appealing about a Persian version of the Vietnam War on steroids. Guess you didn’t learn from Iraq or our present losing venture in Afghanistan. SMH
You libs better calm down, Trump hasn't started a war yet has he? Sending a carrier group to the Strait of Hormuz because Iran threatened to block it. He also sent 2 or 3 groups to North Korea when rocket man was running his mouth, it is pretty standard procedure when a country threatens us.



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Old 05-12-2019, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Absolute, 100% propaganda. Pure garbage. Something Bolton would say.

Is that you John?
They themselves are saying it. They publicly take pride in helping to disable M1A1 Abrams tanks by shaped charges they slipped into Iraq. Back then they used to keep it a secret but in Syria, it all came out. They have openly recruited and funded their militias and support them with arms. It's the same playbook they have played in Lebanon. They are trying to do it in Syria too with their Islamic Foreign Legion.
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Old 05-12-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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They themselves are saying it. They publicly take pride in helping to disable M1A1 Abrams tanks by shaped charges they slipped into Iraq. Back then they used to keep it a secret but in Syria, it all came out. They have openly recruited and funded their militias and support them with arms. It's the same playbook they have played in Lebanon. They are trying to do it in Syria too with their Islamic Foreign Legion.
You might have a point if there were a justification for US crewed M1A1 Abrams tanks in Iraq
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