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Originally Posted by migee
You people that hang onto the wmd thing - What is it that you find so injust about ridding the world of Saddam and his gang?
This was the Iraqi government that:
1) Wanted to conquer the Middle East and cause world economic chaos, so they started by invading and pillaging Kuwait,...And, what the hell, they shot and raped a few thousand civilians there in their spare time...
2) Used civilians as human shields while in battle and retreating,
4) Tried to start World War III by shooting missles into Israel,
5) Scorched the earth by setting the oil wells on fire (one of the worst environmental crimes in history)
6) Gassed and murdered their own people...
And you think that that we were wrong in getting rid of these mad men?...This is the liberal view of right and wrong?
And, I was not trying to imply that the Democrats were "associated" with big business...I was implying that they are "owned" by big business.
Exactly where in the Constitution is the US government tasked with policing the world?
Iraq is hardly the only country abusive with its people, add Belarus, Myanmar, China, N Korea, Saudi Arabia, fill in the blank-o-stan, etc. Are they all to be our respomsibility? Should be invade/occupy all with little/no benefit to the US?
Considering that we are dealing with that issue in Afghanistan I'd think you are happy with your Presidents overall performance in the ME. Bush is doing a fine job
go ahead, say it
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Originally Posted by burdell
Considering al Qaeda was the group behind the 9/11 attacks I'd say they should be the number one priority of US defense policy, that's apparently a concept yet to be grasped in BushWorld.
In this forum, and everywhere else that politics are discussed, the left wing and liberal mantra is that big business is solidly behind the Republican Party.
Big business puts their money where it buys the most influence. Big business can look down the road seven months and see that the party in control will be the Democrats.
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Yet, when I look at this chart of major political contributors, and where they are contributing, it seems that the Democrats are the ones stuffing their pockets with big business bucks...
Is this just another example of how lies are so easily accepted as fact by an uninformed public?
Why do you assume that much of the public is uninformed on this? For the past eight years, big business has contributed more to Republicans for the simple reason that they were in power. The balance is now shifting towards the Democrats. Successful businesses tend to notice trends. It's what makes them successful.
Considering that we are dealing with that issue in Afghanistan I'd think you are happy with your Presidents overall performance in the ME. Bush is doing a fine job. go ahead, say it
Bush is doing a fine job of turning the Middle East into a complete disaster area. Iraq has been destroyed, thereby removing it as any sort of restraint upon Iran. After driving the Taliban into hiding in Afghanistan while not catching bin Laden, the job there was abandoned, allowing the problem to refester to its current proportions. By letting Israel off the leash, we have seen Lebanon bombed back to 1980. Through the folly of supporting and then undercutting democracy in the Palestinian territories, we have seen unprecedented increases in human suffering there, and no progress at all toward the peaceful resolution of any issue. Meanwhile, Syria has grown only more bold in its aspirations and the Turks and Kurds are at each other's throats again.
As in so many other areas, both foreign and domestic, that have been so unfortunate as to see themselves show up on Bush's radar, the Middle East has only been set back by the efforts (if you can call them that) of this administration.
In this forum, and everywhere else that politics are discussed, the left wing and liberal mantra is that big business is solidly behind the Republican Party.
Yet, when I look at this chart of major political contributors, and where they are contributing, it seems that the Democrats are the ones stuffing their pockets with big business bucks...
Is this just another example of how lies are so easily accepted as fact by an uninformed public?
NEWS FLASH!!.. Clinton also claimed there were WMD's in Iraq...
Update: Clinton didn't use that as an excuse to conquer Iraq.
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NEWS FLASH!!.. Taliban had camps in Iraq...
Update: The Taliban presence in Iraq prior to the Bush invasion was there to oppose Saddam.
Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan (http://atimes.com/atimes/south_asia/hc15df03.html - broken link)
The Taliban's connection with Iraq began before the US-led attack there in 2003 when Taliban leader Mullah Omar sent some of his men to stay with the Ansarul Islam, a Kurdish Islamic group in northern Iraq, to train and fight alongside Kurdish guerrillas against Saddam Hussein's forces. After the US invasion, many of these men went to other parts of the country to fight alongside various groups opposed to the US forces.
Diehard Bush backers keep slipping further into irrationality to justify their continued support of a failed presidency.
In your opinion of course. And since your candidated whoever that may have been didnt have the opportunity we dont know how much worse they would have screwed things up
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Originally Posted by saganista
Bush is doing a fine job of turning the Middle East into a complete disaster area. Iraq has been destroyed, thereby removing it as any sort of restraint upon Iran. After driving the Taliban into hiding in Afghanistan while not catching bin Laden, the job there was abandoned, allowing the problem to refester to its current proportions. By letting Israel off the leash, we have seen Lebanon bombed back to 1980. Through the folly of supporting and then undercutting democracy in the Palestinian territories, we have seen unprecedented increases in human suffering there, and no progress at all toward the peaceful resolution of any issue. Meanwhile, Syria has grown only more bold in its aspirations and the Turks and Kurds are at each other's throats again.
As in so many other areas, both foreign and domestic, that have been so unfortunate as to see themselves show up on Bush's radar, the Middle East has only been set back by the efforts (if you can call them that) of this administration.
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