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Old 05-20-2019, 04:02 AM
 
Location: NY
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What we don't need is an influx of uneducated, unskilled immigrants, along with illegals and "asylum"-seekers...a permanent dependent class.

What we don't need is an influx of uneducated, unskilled immigrants, along with illegals and "asylum"-seekers...a permanent dependent class out breeding the educated ,skilled,legal and independent class of Americans......
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:18 AM
 
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Legal immigrants are not a dependent class. Our nation was founded by immigrants, and has thrived while allowing large numbers of immigrants to make this their new home. So long as they contribute, pay their taxes, and follow our laws, it is not fair to call them dependents.
While I agree, I do believe collecting any social welfare benefit should be prohibited until one has worked in America 5 full years (10,400 hours) and paid at minimum, 5x the social welfare benefit cost in Federal Income taxes (does not include SS or Medicare).
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Old 05-20-2019, 04:20 AM
 
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Meanwhile, democrats want open borders so as to allow an unlimited supply of low wage workers. Sorry, you can't whine about low wages and wealth inequality while doing everything possible to promote these things here in the USA.


We need to pass the RAISE Act.
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Old 05-20-2019, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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How is anyone going to raise a family when young people are faced with the following choice:

1) Getting a low-wage wage job.

2) Going to college, graduating with $100,000 in student loan debt, and getting a low-wage job.
Or 3, the $15k hospital bill for the delivery; and then $15k/year for day care....
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Old 05-20-2019, 07:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Wait-just last week all the "experts" were decrying the loss of jobs due to automation replacing American workers. If that's true, just why do we need a bunch of unskilled, uneducated, largely illiterate "immigrants"?
Isn't the easiest way to create a middle class is to import poverty then lower the bar? Poof, I'm now middle class thanks to millions of poor illegals.
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Old 05-20-2019, 07:36 AM
 
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I thought we had an overpopulation problem?
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bi.../19/id/916647/
we do. we need fewer people not more.
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Old 05-20-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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Wait-just last week all the "experts" were decrying the loss of jobs due to automation replacing American workers. If that's true, just why do we need a bunch of unskilled, uneducated, largely illiterate "immigrants"?
The absolute truth!
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Old 05-20-2019, 08:00 AM
 
Location: Plymouth Meeting, PA.
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In America????





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we do. we need fewer people not more.
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Old 05-20-2019, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Starting a walkabout
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If we need immigrants, get qualified immigrants using points system like Canada and Australia does.

Not the caravans that come from south of the border and become leeches on our society.
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Old 05-20-2019, 08:42 AM
 
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I thought we had an overpopulation problem?
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/bi.../19/id/916647/
The population explosion was hyped for years. In the 70s it was predicted we would be dead by 1990. The hysteria was similar to the climate change predictions that we will all die in a few years.

The developed western world has an extremely low fertility rate. So low that Europeans will eventually become extinct. The same applies to Japan.

Muslim men have 4 kids with each of their wives (up to four wives in some cases). The world of the future will be Islamic and I fear for women and the LGBTQIA people.
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