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I, and another poster, pointed out that it isn't a dishonest title because the new laws being enacted are effectively banning abortion when they are banned by the time many women even are aware they are pregnant.
So yes, it's a quibble. The bigger question is just how precious are baby's lives in these states? It doesn't seem like they are that precious after all.
For these states, their concern with life begins with conception and ends with birth.
For these states, their concern with life begins with conception and ends with birth.
Calilfornia has over 1.6 million children living in poverty, by far the largest amount of children living in poverty in any state in the country. where is your sanctimonious concern for your own backyard?
BTW Mississippi's infant mortality rate is the highest us the US. Those babies don't concern you as much as a week's old embryo?
No they don't. I can tell you the exact moment the far right loons stop caring about a baby - the very moment it exists the womb.
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So what? Who cares what color they are? These are American babies, not embryos, that are dying and something should be done to help them. And the maternal mortality rate in this country is disgraceful too.
Our maternal mortality rate is truly a disgrace. The RWNJ's do not care about the baby once it is born and they absolutely do not care about the 'host body' as one Republican lawmaker repeatedly referred to a pregnant woman.
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If you outlaw abortion by the time a heartbeat is detected, you've essentially outlawed abortion, because most people don't know they're pregnant until such time as you get the early heartbeat (and the heart isn't even fully formed, but it does technically "beat").
So, it is a good question. Why are those states more focused on severely limiting abortion than prenatal care and better outcomes for women who WANT to give birth?
They care neither about women or a baby that has been born.
Calilfornia has over 1.6 million children living in poverty, by far the largest amount of children living in poverty in any state in the country. where is your sanctimonious concern for your own backyard?
Concern about childhood poverty and concern about legal abortions in the 2nd and 3rd trimesters are not mutually exclusive.
California has the largest population so...
Find the childhood poverty rates by state and get back to us.
First trimester is 3 months not 6-8 weeks....or only if your life is at risk.
What are these states that claim to be "pro-life" doing about actual post-birth life or about trying to prevent unwanted pregnancies before they occur?
When they start seriously addressing those issues I'll start taking the "but the babies!" rhetoric more seriously. I'm not holding my breath.
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Originally Posted by Listener2307 Abortion ban??? Where?!
Oh, you meant abortion restrictions!
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That's your only quibble?
BTW Mississippi's infant mortality rate is the highest us the US. Those babies don't concern you as much as a week's old embryo?
Yes, that's my quibble. The Left charges conservatives with trying to ban abortion when no such thing is happening. Up until this last month or so, I can't say as I much cared about the issue one way or the other, but I have recently converted.
There are so many ways for women to act responsibly either before sex or even right after unprotected sex, that I have decided to hold them - the women - accountable.
Prevent abortions! ........ Don't get pregnant.
But in the event there is a misjudgment or crime there is always time during the next 5 days to prevent the unthinkable.
Yes, that's my quibble. The Left charges conservatives with trying to ban abortion when no such thing is happening. Up until this last month or so, I can't say as I much cared about the issue one way or the other, but I have recently converted.
There are so many ways for women to act responsibly either before sex or even right after unprotected sex, that I have decided to hold them - the women - accountable.
Prevent abortions! ........ Don't get pregnant.
But in the event there is a misjudgment or crime there is always time during the next 5 days to prevent the unthinkable.
50% of abortions are due to birth control failure. Those women were being responsible. The most effective form is vasectomy. Why don’t we mandate all men of fertile age get one? If the goal is to prevent abortion and that’s the best way to prevent pregnancy, why not?
Yes, that's my quibble. The Left charges conservatives with trying to ban abortion when no such thing is happening. Up until this last month or so, I can't say as I much cared about the issue one way or the other, but I have recently converted.
There are so many ways for women to act responsibly either before sex or even right after unprotected sex, that I have decided to hold them - the women - accountable.
Prevent abortions! ........ Don't get pregnant.
But in the event there is a misjudgment or crime there is always time during the next 5 days to prevent the unthinkable.
So you believe women who become pregnant getting their "just desserts"?
Children as punishment. Lovely.
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Yes, that's my quibble. The Left charges conservatives with trying to ban abortion when no such thing is happening. Up until this last month or so, I can't say as I much cared about the issue one way or the other, but I have recently converted.
