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Old 06-07-2019, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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Originally Posted by ottomobeale View Post
Obama was terrible.

Trump is terrible.
AND embarassing.
I’m no fan of Trump, either. I didn’t vote for him and he certainly doesn't deserve my vote in 2020. And while I like SOME of what has been accomplished in the last couple of years like the tax cuts, regulatory cuts, and the judicial appointments (minus Kavanaugh), I'm not so sure Trump deserves a lot of credit for any of that.

Like you, I am also thoroughly embarrassed by much of his tweets, his buffoonery, his thoroughly idiotic trade policies, signing off on trillion dollar deficits, and his overall anti-intellectualism. But he WAS elected President, and the Democrats have no one but themselves to blame for that. Trump was a very bad Presidential candidate with no substance whatsoever, but he wasn't the worst one running in 2016.

 
Old 06-07-2019, 03:40 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
false


1. deficits ie the budget is controlled by...congress..not the potus


2. the deficit never decreased by 2/3rds


10/01/2009................................ 11,920,519,164,319.42
09/30/2010................................ 13,561,623,030,891.79
difference of 1,641,103,866,572............................1.6 trillion deficit fy10

10/01/2010.................................13,610,847,58 5,810.09
09/30/2011.................................14,790,340,32 8,557.15
1,179,492,742,747...........................1.17tr illion deficit fy11

09/30/2011................................ 14,790,340,328,557.15
09/28/2012................................ 16,066,241,407,385.89
1,275,901,078,828..........................1.27 trillion deficit fy12

10/01/2012.................................16,159,487,01 3,300.35
09/30/2013.................................16,738,183,52 6,697.32
578,696,513,397..............................578 billion deficit fy13......the only one of two full years under one trillion

10/01/2013................................. 16,747,478,675,335.18
09/30/2014................................. 17,824,071,380,733.82
1,076,592,705,398..............................1.0 7 trillion deficit fy14


10/01/2014................................. 17,824,071,380,733.82
09/30/2015................................. 18,150,617,666,484.33
326,546,285,750.51..............................32 6 billion deficit fy15...the second less than trillion


10/01/2015................................. 18,150,617,666,484.33
09/30/2016.................................19,573,444,71 3,936.79
1,422,827,047,452.46.............................. 1.42 trillion deficit fy16
2014 Federal deficit- (actual) $484 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_U...federal_budget

2015 Federal Deficit- (actual) $438 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_U...federal_budget

2016 Federal Deficit- (actual) $585 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_U...federal_budget

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source: US Treasury
https://treasurydirect.gov/NP/debt/current
Obama was president from 2009-2017.

(Note: the 2009 Federal Budget was submitted by GW Bush.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_U...federal_budget


Deficit by year,

2009- $1.4 trillion
2010- $1.2 trillion
2011- $1.2 trillion
2012- $1.0 trillion
2013- $679 billion
2014- $484 billion
2015- $438 billion

From 2009-2015 the deficit was reduced by 2/3.


2009- $1.4 trillion

2016- $584 billion
2017- $665 billion

From 2009-2017 the deficit was reduced by more than 1/2.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/stat...outlay-summary



Future projected deficits,

Projected deficit 2019- $896 billion
https://www.cbo.gov/topics/budget

Projected deficit 2020- $1.1 trillion.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ext-four-years

Hillary Clinton would have raised our debt to 85%-95% of GDP, while Donald Trump will raise our debt to 105%-145% of GDP.
Promises and Price Tags: A Fiscal Guide to the 2016 Election | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget



Debt increase by fiscal year,

2009- 8.6%
2011- 8.3%
2012- 9.8%
2010- 6.7%
2013- 4.0%
2014- 2.7%
2015- 2.4%
2016- 3.1%
2017- 3.4%

Obama lowered our debt increase by year by approximately 2/3.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306

Last edited by chad3; 06-07-2019 at 03:56 PM..
 
Old 06-07-2019, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Then you have all the rest. Reagan was an actor,
Reagan was also governor of the most populous state for 8 years after he was an actor. Of course, the leftists like to leave that part out.
 
Old 06-08-2019, 12:26 AM
 
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Obama is one of the worst president ever... He reminds me of one of those people who failed and then got employee of the month award .....
 
Old 06-08-2019, 04:17 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Obama is one of the worst president ever... He reminds me of one of those people who failed and then got employee of the month award .....
And let's not forget they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize for...……….well, something.
 
Old 06-08-2019, 04:22 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Although nowhere on my list of Great Presidents, I will thank obama for giving us Trump.
 
Old 06-08-2019, 07:15 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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And let's not forget they gave him the Nobel Peace Prize for...……….well, something.
And let's not forget they DIDN'T give Trump the Nobel Peace Prize for..........well, nothing - in spite of his people lobbying for it.

Ken
 
Old 06-08-2019, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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Originally Posted by chad3 View Post
2014 Federal deficit- (actual) $484 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_U...federal_budget

2015 Federal Deficit- (actual) $438 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_U...federal_budget

2016 Federal Deficit- (actual) $585 billion
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_U...federal_budget



Obama was president from 2009-2017.

(Note: the 2009 Federal Budget was submitted by GW Bush.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_U...federal_budget


Deficit by year,

2009- $1.4 trillion
2010- $1.2 trillion
2011- $1.2 trillion
2012- $1.0 trillion
2013- $679 billion
2014- $484 billion
2015- $438 billion

From 2009-2015 the deficit was reduced by 2/3.


2009- $1.4 trillion

2016- $584 billion
2017- $665 billion

From 2009-2017 the deficit was reduced by more than 1/2.

https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/stat...outlay-summary



Future projected deficits,

Projected deficit 2019- $896 billion
https://www.cbo.gov/topics/budget

Projected deficit 2020- $1.1 trillion.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...ext-four-years

Hillary Clinton would have raised our debt to 85%-95% of GDP, while Donald Trump will raise our debt to 105%-145% of GDP.
Promises and Price Tags: A Fiscal Guide to the 2016 Election | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget



Debt increase by fiscal year,

2009- 8.6%
2011- 8.3%
2012- 9.8%
2010- 6.7%
2013- 4.0%
2014- 2.7%
2015- 2.4%
2016- 3.1%
2017- 3.4%

Obama lowered our debt increase by year by approximately 2/3.

https://www.thebalance.com/us-deficit-by-year-3306306
You are giving credit to Obama.....what about congress? They control the purse strings!
 
Old 06-08-2019, 11:28 AM
 
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they neglected to mention that they only polled 9 year olds.
 
Old 06-08-2019, 11:59 AM
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Location: Planet Earth
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Reagan, Bush Sr, Clinton, GWB, Obama, Trump

Meh, they're all just meh to me.
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