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Old 07-30-2019, 05:15 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Medicare and Social Security taxes are assessed at a flat rate, so there's precedence.
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Old 07-30-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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Obama spent more in his administration than the last 8 presidents. Of course liberal media will excuse that or never mention it.
I should have added it but no, it's MORE THAN ALL OTHER PRESIDENTS COMBINED.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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Universal health care has worked pretty well in the countries that have it. Thing is, everyone has to participate...
True, but those nations did not have an expensive, entrenched, highly profitable and politically powerful health care industry already in place. To institute universal coverage in the U.S., you would have to either continue to pay all those powerful special interests in some way (prohibitively expensive), phase in a reduction of their profits over time (probably impossible politically), or cover basic medical care for everyone with “better” care being available for those can afford it. Note that our current system is basically the last one, with the working class generally given the insurance coverage to afford “better” care - which is probably the best solution we could have given the existing constraints.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Moderator/Interviewer to Socialist: How do we pay for all these socialist programs you propose?

Socialist: (deflects) But what about poor people, children are poor, and all that? The top 1% blah blah blah......

It's simple math, it is unconscionable that people can't understand this.

45% of Americans pay no income taxes. So guess who would get stuck with the bills for all of this socialist crap?

That's right....the other 55% who actually pay. Which would totally bankrupt the middle class. And still not come close to the total all this would cost. People would be losing their homes, retirement, etc. That's real nice.

Like it or not, the USA is full of dregs that don't contribute. It's not Canada with 30 million people, it's the USA with 330 million to cover.

I think a lot of people don't realize that the Government without tax revenue would have zero dollars, literally zero. Nothing is free.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:39 PM
 
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Why not? Can't you accept that health care isn't free? Or are you fortunate enought to be on the Republican Health Care Plan--DON'T GET SICK!?


thats actually good advice, or said another way; take care of your body, you only have one.

You are your own Health Care plan, no one else.
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Old 07-30-2019, 06:43 PM
 
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The right only passed permanent tax relief for corporations and made sure the middle class got crumbs while the the majority of the cut went to the top
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Old 07-30-2019, 07:07 PM
 
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The right only passed permanent tax relief for corporations and made sure the middle class got crumbs while the the majority of the cut went to the top
Oh is that why wealthy taxpayers were screaming about the cap on SALT taxes. Because we all know that the poor and all the middle class pay over $10k every year in salt taxes right? <sarcasm>
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Old 07-30-2019, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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She want to eliminate private insurance for 100M people. The lady is not that bright.
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Old 07-30-2019, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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She want to eliminate private insurance for 100M people. The lady is not that bright.
Also, how many thousands, tens of thousands of jobs that go with that.

I would never trade my excellent private health insurance for crap government-run medicare.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:28 PM
 
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Why doesn't Canada pay for it? Why must 75% of Canadians buy or earn supplemental private health insurance to pay for their health care while ALSO being taxed for it?
Ok, this is getting really tiring. Look, most of the pre-K and above aged population will agree that:

$6,839 < $11,000 (the numbers rjshae posted above)

I am not going to bother, but just imagine that in my future answers I keep posting the above, lol.

P.S. You might also want to look up what exactly is covered by the basic and what by the supplemental insurance, but my feel is, it is not going to help you.
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