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View Poll Results: Do you support Warren's proposal that we first have to be attacked with nukes before we can use them
Yes, we should announce to the world we won't use a nuke until one is first used on us 31 27.93%
No, we shouldn't handcuff ourselves saying a city first has to be destroyed before we can use our most powerful weapons 80 72.07%
Voters: 111. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-03-2019, 07:54 AM
 
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During the recent debate, Warren said she would sign a pledge to not use a nuclear weapon unless one is used on us first.

This to me is a deal breaker... it's like having a gun and pledging you will never shoot unless you get shot first. Why do we need to see NYC blown up before we can protect ourselves?

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Great Warrior Warren also said she was Native American.



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Old 08-03-2019, 08:06 AM
 
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The real answer is it doesn't matter since it is non-binding and first use poses high risk of uncontrolled escalation.

If the US were to ever be involved in a nuclear war with one of Russia or China, indications are that the US will strike against both based on past close call incidents where orders were to launch against both. They may go farther and attack in addition whomever they fear will become a regional superpower.

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Old 08-03-2019, 08:11 AM
 
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During the recent debate, Warren said she would sign a pledge to not use a nuclear weapon unless one is used on us first.

This to me is a deal breaker... it's like having a gun and pledging you will never shoot unless you get shot first. Why do we need to see NYC blown up before we can protect ourselves?

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If NYC gets blown up it’ll be by individuals, not a state therefore won’t be anyone to nuke in retaliation.
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Old 08-03-2019, 08:28 AM
 
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Let's see. Nuke "first strike" targets would be NYC and Washington DC. Nothing else makes sense.

So Pocahontas says she wants to sacrifice one of those cities before she'd use a nuke.


One more time. Pocahontas wants to sacrifice New York City & Washington DC, before she'd consider using a nuke.
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Old 08-03-2019, 02:18 PM
 
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From time of launch in Russia to hit NYC, 30 min...

So.. The US says it will not launch first.
IF Russia, Iran, China, NK launches... 5 min later, the US has launched its missiles in return.


So, what is gained by waiting 5 or 10 min? They will be obliterated anyhow.

By saying the US will not attack first, the world pressure is on the "third party country" to go out and say the same thing.
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Old 08-03-2019, 02:19 PM
 
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does anyone believe anything this woman says anymore?
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Old 08-03-2019, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Boston
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no, she's always been a big liar.
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Old 08-03-2019, 02:25 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Yes we shouldn't be first to strike with nukes you also shouldn't announce it.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:18 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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During the recent debate, Warren said she would sign a pledge to not use a nuclear weapon unless one is used on us first.

This to me is a deal breaker... it's like having a gun and pledging you will never shoot unless you get shot first. Why do we need to see NYC blown up before we can protect ourselves?

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Has no one explained to her she’ll be target #1 and won’t have a chance to send one back.
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Old 08-03-2019, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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So we have to get nuked first.

Gee, thanks a lot, lady.
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