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Old 05-15-2020, 06:19 AM
 
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We fought a ****ing WAR to END slavery! WTF is wrong with you!?!?
Excuse me? Yes, we fought a war for states rights actually with one of the implications being the end of slavery officially. Of course, the occurrence was still practiced widely in the south as forced contractual sharecropping for decades after. Moreover, blacks continued to live as de-facto and often de-jure second-class citizens for 100 years after. The social and economic implications of 350 years of such treatment, which continues today in much of the south, as well as other parts of the country has never been fully addressed.

I'm sorry you have no understanding of history nor have you received an appropriate education to discuss these things. You're in over your head here, and your lack of knowledge is why you hold such views that you do, in stark contrast to the historical record.

 
Old 05-15-2020, 06:21 AM
 
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Huh? Just when I thought I've seen the most pretzel-twisting around, you come up with this?

So....some privileged black authors go back in time 400 years to paint a lie about America being founded on slavery, and when "the right" refutes that false claim, you berate the "right" for going back in time to refute it?
The paradox of the USA is that it was founded on both liberty and slavery at the same time. This is a historical fact and not a question of personal feelings. The Founders sought liberty for themselves without much thought, in most cases, to the liberty of the millions enslaved.

Pointing out the historical fact is not criticizing, it is discussing history with the relevance of ongoing social ills still present today because of that history. Only insecure people would be offended by historical fact.
 
Old 05-15-2020, 06:21 AM
 
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What does it change, in the black experience in America, whether America was FOUNDED on racism or not? Okay, I will play. Say America actually was NOT founded on racism....does that mean that America was not racist? What would this information change?
Saying America was founded on racism is a LIE intended to convince people that this is a much more of a racist country than it really is.
 
Old 05-15-2020, 06:23 AM
 
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The paradox of the USA is that it was founded on both liberty and slavery at the same time. This is a historical fact and not a question of personal feelings. The Founders sought liberty for themselves without much thought, in most cases, to the liberty of the millions enslaved.

Pointing out the historical fact is not criticizing, it is discussing history with the relevance of ongoing social ills still present today because of that history. Only insecure people would be offended by historical fact.
Except this 1610 Project, apparently now being taught in schools, is a distortion of the truth. Only insecure people need to distort the truth when making their points. The truth is bad enough....no need to embellish.
 
Old 05-15-2020, 06:24 AM
 
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Saying America was founded on racism is a LIE intended to convince people that this is a much more of a racist country than it really is.
You don't think white people in the 17th and 18th centuries were racist? There are many around today who are racist. Of course, they were racist - i.e. they thought that white people were superior to black and all other people and that manifested with the rise of slavery beginning in Virginia in 1619.

The first Africans shipped over were able to buy their freedom or gain it eventually as indentured servants just as poor whites were, but gradually over the course of about 15 years, the interpretation very quickly changed and under the statute, blacks became a different class of people, which evolved into slavery based on race.
 
Old 05-15-2020, 06:24 AM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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Excuse me? Yes, we fought a war for states rights actually with one of the implications being the end of slavery officially. Of course, the occurrence was still practiced widely in the south as forced contractual sharecropping for decades after. Moreover, blacks continued to live as de-facto and often de-jure second-class citizens for 100 years after. The social and economic implications of 350 years of such treatment, which continues today in much of the south, as well as other parts of the country has never been fully addressed.

I'm sorry you have no understanding of history nor have you received an appropriate education to discuss these things. You're in over your head here, and your lack of knowledge is why you hold such views that you do, in stark contrast to the historical record.

There's NO EXCUSE for the bull crap you constantly post here.
 
Old 05-15-2020, 06:24 AM
 
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Except this 1610 Project, apparently now being taught in schools, is a distortion of the truth. Only insecure people need to distort the truth when making their points. The truth is bad enough....no need to embellish.
1619-1964 Period argued as span of legal black oppression in America. That is 345 years of the 401 years. That is 86% of the stay of blacks in this land, under a form of LEGAL RACIAL OPPRESSION.

So....the revision is that it was only a mere 300 years of legal racial oppression, of the 400 years (75%) of the existence.

Yeah...that "lie" changes everything. America was really not as racist towards blacks as the left makes is seem. It was ONLY 300 years....not 345 of oppression.

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Old 05-15-2020, 06:25 AM
 
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Except this 1610 Project, apparently now being taught in schools, is a distortion of the truth. Only insecure people need to distort the truth when making their points. The truth is bad enough....no need to embellish.
Please point out how it is a distortion, so we can discuss each point, point by point.
 
Old 05-15-2020, 06:26 AM
 
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There's NO EXCUSE for the bull crap you constantly post here.
I see, so it's bull crap, but no counter-claim? Because you have no understanding of what you're even discussing. If you were able to refute my posts, which are based on the historical record, we can get started here. But, you're unable to do so.
 
Old 05-15-2020, 06:27 AM
 
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Leave it to leftist. **** stirring political agitator HACKS, the LOT of them!
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