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Old 09-20-2019, 07:03 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by TBMorgan View Post
How do you know I'm wrong? You want to stifle/obstruct the whistleblower.
Commit espionage and scream whistle blower, to save your ass....




Ukraine was asked by Obama WH to dig up dirt on Manafort and Trump, and Biden told Ukraine to fire prosecutors investigating Hunter Biden or assistance would end. Let's remember that. Difference is that it is okay if the purpose is to help Democrats.

 
Old 09-20-2019, 07:03 AM
 
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
NY Times trying to find a way to blame Trump and Rudy for the Biden family taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from Ukrainian oligarch.


The NY Times is going crazy over Ukraine. But first let them report how the VP Biden bribed the Pres. of Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating collusion with Hillary and Biden’s son taking millions from a corrupt oligarch, after taking billions from China.


They tried to keep it under wraps.


How long before lib media realizes they are repeating the fact over and over that Biden should be investigated for his shady deals with Ukraine?
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Originally Posted by Rakin View Post

When Biden was VP, he had a run in with an especially bad Ukranian dude named Korn Popovovich. Popovovich ran some bad boys, and Biden called him Olga Korbut one day. When Korn and his bad boys went after Biden, tough guy Joe offered him 1 billion dollars of our money to back off, then apologized for calling him Olga.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 07:06 AM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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Wait Mainstream Media, you say a whistleblower says Trump asked Ukraine to investigate allegations of corruption engaged in by the Biden family? What allegations are those? Because this is the first your readers are hearing about that...
Google "whistleblower" this morning, and read the story from the media of your choice. It's all over the place, from MSNBC to Fox.

Trump allegedly tried to get the president of Ukraine to help him rig the 2020 election by getting Biden out of the picture.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 07:07 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by cuebald View Post
Google "whistleblower" this morning, and read the story from the media of your choice. It's all over the place, from MSNBC to Fox.

Trump allegedly tried to get the president of Ukraine to help him rig the 2020 election by getting Biden out of the picture.
Read the same people that ran a conspiracy theory as fact for 3 years?
 
Old 09-20-2019, 07:09 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/sta...28628628955136
 
Old 09-20-2019, 07:22 AM
 
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Sycophants and extreme tribalists may laugh this off or try to justify it because they are happy in their belief that it benefits their "team," but they should consider that normalizing this type of unprecedented action is a terrible idea. Even if they only care about their "team," they should recognize that their "team" won't hold the White House forever.

These allegations, if true, should be genuinely concerning to every American, regardless of their political leanings.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 07:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by BentBow View Post
NY Times trying to find a way to blame Trump and Rudy for the Biden family taking hundreds of thousands of dollars from Ukrainian oligarch.


The NY Times is going crazy over Ukraine. But first let them report how the VP Biden bribed the Pres. of Ukraine to fire the prosecutor investigating collusion with Hillary and Biden’s son taking millions from a corrupt oligarch, after taking billions from China.


They tried to keep it under wraps.


How long before lib media realizes they are repeating the fact over and over that Biden should be investigated for his shady deals with Ukraine?
The whistle blower seems to think this is a problem.


You shouldn't listen to Rudy, he's losing it.


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Rudolph W. Giuliani, President Trump’s personal lawyer, contradicted himself when asked whether he personally asked Ukraine to investigate former vice president Joe Biden, ranted about media bias and defended Trump amid new reports about an intelligence official’s whistleblower complaint, during a chaotic and fiery CNN interview Thursday night.
Immediately after anchor Chris Cuomo introduced him and summarized the latest news out of the whistleblower story, which had only broken about an hour prior, Giuliani went into attack mode.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...conds-earlier/
 
Old 09-20-2019, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Texas
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How long before lib media realizes they are repeating the fact over and over that Biden should be investigated for his shady deals with Ukraine?

OK, BB...

I'll do your homework for you:

"Key takeaways • Hunter Biden did hold a directorship for a Ukrainian gas company while his father was vice president. Experts agree that Hunter Biden's acceptance of the position created a conflict of interest for his father.
• Vice President Joe Biden did urge Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor, with the threat of withholding U.S. aid. But that was the position of the wider U.S. government, as well as other international institutions.
• We found no evidence to support the idea that Joe Biden advocated with his son's interests in mind, as the message suggests. It's not even clear that the company was actively under investigation or that a change in prosecutors benefited it."



https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...n-and-ukraine/


Bottom line is that Biden was pressuring Ukraine to look into corruption not connected to his son's business. He was doing it as a US govt position, not as a personal campaign boost. Other govts in addition to the US were also calling for the investigation.

Maybe Trumplings can acknowledge the difference. But I don't expect any of them to ever admit it.

Carry on.


 
Old 09-20-2019, 08:01 AM
 
Location: Self explanatory
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Originally Posted by TEPLimey View Post
Sycophants and extreme tribalists may laugh this off or try to justify it because they are happy in their belief that it benefits their "team," but they should consider that normalizing this type of unprecedented action is a terrible idea. Even if they only care about their "team," they should recognize that their "team" won't hold the White House forever.

These allegations, if true, should be genuinely concerning to every American, regardless of their political leanings.
I don't think many on the board are capable of seeing past the end of their own nose, let alone deviate from their marching orders.
 
Old 09-20-2019, 08:18 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
The whistle blower seems to think this is a problem.


You shouldn't listen to Rudy, he's losing it.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...conds-earlier/
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Originally Posted by Old Gringo View Post
OK, BB...

I'll do your homework for you:

"Key takeaways • Hunter Biden did hold a directorship for a Ukrainian gas company while his father was vice president. Experts agree that Hunter Biden's acceptance of the position created a conflict of interest for his father.
• Vice President Joe Biden did urge Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor, with the threat of withholding U.S. aid. But that was the position of the wider U.S. government, as well as other international institutions.
• We found no evidence to support the idea that Joe Biden advocated with his son's interests in mind, as the message suggests. It's not even clear that the company was actively under investigation or that a change in prosecutors benefited it."



https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...n-and-ukraine/


Bottom line is that Biden was pressuring Ukraine to look into corruption not connected to his son's business. He was doing it as a US govt position, not as a personal campaign boost. Other govts in addition to the US were also calling for the investigation.

Maybe Trumplings can acknowledge the difference. But I don't expect any of them to ever admit it.

Carry on.


If you were an anti-Trump leaker in the Intel Community afraid that you are about to be exposed with a criminal investigation, might you not seek protection by calling yourself a "whistleblower"? LOL!


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