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Old 03-13-2020, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Nowhere in the New Testament is there any endorsement of hatred against non-believers or anyone. Where did you get such an outlandish idea?

Islam does refer to non-believers as "infidels". Not sure what the Koran says in how to deal with them.
https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/a-...-of-the-world/
We have used the most widely available English text of the Qur’an and readers are welcome to verify our quotes from the holy book. Please have an open mind and read through these verses again and again. The following quotes are taken from the most trusted Yusufali’s translation of the Qur’an.

The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “kill the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem”

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (9:3). Our God tells us to “fight the unbelievers” and “He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them” (9:14).




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Old 03-13-2020, 09:48 AM
 
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#puts on identity politics hat

All responses either way on this topic are clearly racist or sexist.
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Old 03-13-2020, 01:13 PM
 
Location: USA
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https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/a-...-of-the-world/
We have used the most widely available English text of the Qur’an and readers are welcome to verify our quotes from the holy book. Please have an open mind and read through these verses again and again. The following quotes are taken from the most trusted Yusufali’s translation of the Qur’an.

The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “kill the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem”

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (9:3). Our God tells us to “fight the unbelievers” and “He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them” (9:14).




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All misinterpreted when transferred to English. When Mohammad wrote the Holy Quran he wrote it in Arabic, the only language it was intended to be read in.
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Old 03-13-2020, 10:50 PM
 
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Of course the comments were disabled for this video. They can't have people sharing unapproved opinions.
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Old 03-14-2020, 08:23 AM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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Originally Posted by my54ford View Post
https://centerforinquiry.org/blog/a-...-of-the-world/
We have used the most widely available English text of the Qur’an and readers are welcome to verify our quotes from the holy book. Please have an open mind and read through these verses again and again. The following quotes are taken from the most trusted Yusufali’s translation of the Qur’an.

The Qur’an tells us: “not to make friendship with Jews and Christians” (5:51), “kill the disbelievers wherever we find them” (2:191), “murder them and treat them harshly” (9:123), “fight and slay the Pagans, seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem”

(9:5). The Qur’an demands that we fight the unbelievers, and promises “If there are twenty amongst you, you will vanquish two hundred: if a hundred, you will vanquish a thousand of them” (8:65).

Allah and his messenger want us to fight the Christians and the Jews “until they pay the Jizya [a penalty tax for the non-Muslims living under Islamic rules] with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued” (9:29).

Allah and his messenger announce that it is acceptable to go back on our promises (treaties) and obligations with Pagans and make war on them whenever we find ourselves strong enough to do so (9:3). Our God tells us to “fight the unbelievers” and “He will punish them by our hands, cover them with shame and help us (to victory) over them” (9:14).

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I'm sure your accuracy of translation is right up this with every Christian who references the bible to support whatever diatribe of hate they are spewing. Does this reflect using every other word/sentence the way the Christian Right uses references?
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Old 03-14-2020, 09:40 AM
 
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Default Islam is RIGHT about women?

No. Islam is a just a cult started by a pedophile. You have to give Muhammad credit though. He waited until his nine year old wife got her first period before he jumped her bones. Islam is just like Scientology, another contrived cult, started by a used car salesman and science fiction writer, L. Ron Hubbard, to make piles of money that would be tax free.
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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What if a Muslim husband beats his wife in the privacy of their, excuse me, his home?
Fundamentalist Christians beat their children. The denomination I grew up in encouraged it, even to the point of bruising. There was a doctrine called "breaking the will of the child." Should that be legal?
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:05 AM
 
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All misinterpreted when transferred to English. When Mohammad wrote the Holy Quran he wrote it in Arabic, the only language it was intended to be read in.
If you say so. Maybe someone here who knows Arabic can state what they really meant.

That said, over the past several years there seems to be a bit of an imbalance between the number of faith based killings by Muslims than faith based killings by Christians around the world.
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:09 AM
 
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The Democratic Party is intellectualy and logically bankrupt.

You can't be pro-Women and pro-Islam, the 2 are mutually exclusive.

You can't be pro-Gay and pro-Islam, the 2 are mutually exclusive.

You can't be pro-Constitution and ....the list goes on folks...
Who said the Democratic Party is pro-Islam?
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Old 03-14-2020, 10:14 AM
 
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Nowhere in the New Testament is there any endorsement of hatred against non-believers or anyone.
That's true. Someone should tell Christians that.
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