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Old 10-02-2019, 07:03 PM
 
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shifty Schiff just blew it for the dems
Actually, they never had a chance. Now, they have even less of a chance.

 
Old 10-02-2019, 07:05 PM
 
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Everything I've read says the same.

Whatever happened occurred before Hunter Biden arrived. There is no evidence or even reason to believe that either Biden was involved in anything nefarious.

Trump carries on about a lot of things that just aren't so. For years he flogged that BS about Obama's birth, then he accused Obama of wiretapping him, ...

The list of nutball conspiracy theories that Trump spreads is lengthy.

This is another one. Only this time, he tried to strong arm anther nation into backing his play.
Joe Biden was the front man for a more powerful country intervening to force the firing of the Prosecutor General. Then he was arrogant and bragged about it. He made Ukraine look like a "banana republic."

If only because of that, there are some Ukrainians who might be more than willing to do Trump's backing if it results in a Biden-payback.

Then pair that with a President whose first obligation is to the welfare of Ukraine with its need for U.S. dollars at a time when there are sensitive ongoing negotiations with the Russians over Ukrainian territory.

With none of these players subject to U.S. laws (perjury etc. evidentiary standards).

This comes pretty close to doing what Schiff first charged: asking the Ukrainians to manufacture dirt.

Not that Trump would ever have used those words.

But it's a major reason why you don't ask favors like this of a foreign country.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 07:07 PM
 
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Just a reminder.

The dems on impeachment.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...42037479202816
LOL. Because lying about a BJ is exactly the same as blackmailing foreign governments for political gain.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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LOL. Because lying about a BJ is exactly the same as blackmailing foreign governments for political gain.
except serial rapist slick willie didn't lie about a blowjob...he lied about the sexual assault case
 
Old 10-02-2019, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Columbia, SC
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except serial rapist slick willie didn't lie about a blowjob...he lied about the sexual assault case
Quite unlike serial rapist and part-time child rapist Trump who lies every time he opens his mouth.

Also, just for the record, Bill is not the one who has prompted an impeachment inquiry this time. That is the sole province and pleasure of Donnie Divot, BULL****ter extraordinaire. Nice try at changing the subject, but it's not gonna work.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 07:31 PM
 
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Quite unlike serial rapist and part-time child rapist Trump who lies every time he opens his mouth.

Also, just for the record, Bill is not the one who has prompted an impeachment inquiry this time. That is the sole province and pleasure of Donnie Divot, BULL****ter extraordinaire. Nice try at changing the subject, but it's not gonna work.
As much as I appreciate the continued enthusiasm of our R/R colleagues, I've begun to wonder where they are getting their material these days.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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MAGA-Redhatters only believe one source: Faux. Otherwise, they consider it fake, right?
CNN (Faux News) is fake. So you are correct.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 07:57 PM
 
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LOL. Because lying about a BJ is exactly the same as blackmailing foreign governments for political gain.
Bill Clinton actually committed crimes, obstruction of justice and perjury, as of yet Trump hasn't been shown to have committed any crime.

I mean that's just objectively the facts.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 08:01 PM
 
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Wrong.

The Mueller report documented at least a dozen instances of obstruction of justice.

Currently, Trump is intimidating witnesses and threatening a member of Congress.
 
Old 10-02-2019, 08:07 PM
 
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Wrong.

The Mueller report documented at least a dozen instances of obstruction of justice.

Currently, Trump is intimidating witnesses and threatening a member of Congress.
If that was true, and it's not, then that would have been the excuse for impeachment and not some random conversation with a foreign head of state where no crime was committed because if true that would be much better grounds to do so.

As it stands, that's little more than fantasy nonsense that our friends on the left keep telling themselves to hide their embarrassment over all of the ridiculous things they said leading up to the Mueller nothingburger.

Even then though, Democrats set a precedent in the Bill Clinton impeachment that obstruction of justice isn't an impeachable offense... otherwise he'd have been removed from office.
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