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It would be a precedent the GOP would set, that they are okay with asks for foreign intervention.
Assistance and intervention are wildly different concepts.
Nonetheless, FDR accepted tons of foreign intervention and interference. British intelligence got his opponent changed in 1940. France was bribing Senators and electors back at the end of the 18th century. No one's going to be setting precedents here unless it's a precedent for the flimsiest pretext for an impeachment.
It would be a precedent the GOP would set, that they are okay with asks for foreign intervention.
So much the GOP has turned a blind eye on with Trump. Pretty much any silly argument they make in the near future will fall on deaf ears with the exception of their rabid base.
For example- the Chief Executive calling for outing a whistleblower and clamoring false allegations of treason.
So 90% here believe it is illegal but most Rs still do not support impeachment.
No, non sequitur.
First, you're presuming that Trump asked the Ukrainian government for election assistance. That's a tendentious partisan inference that you're imputing to everyone who answered no. That's not reasonable. People could vote no but think this wasn't a request for election assistance.
Second, the poll didn't ask about this particular event. It asked whether people believed asking for election assistance was "generally legal". Obviously, even if it's not generally legal, a particular instance could be legal.
So assuming there is a reason to believe someone is involved in fraud in another country does the fact that the person is running for president make it illegal for the president to ask for it to be investigated by that country.
The whole thing is about timing. This whole Biden thing has been known about for years. And it should have been investigated years ago. Biden is 100% guilty of doing what Trump is accused of, by his own words on video. Waiting to he was an announced candidate then seeking information was frankly a stupid thing to do.
Now don't get me wrong i don't think this will led to a successful impeachment. Trump never actually says anything about a tit for tat deal with Ukraine, unlike Biden who was very clear in what he had said. Those against Trump are just insisting that it is there, and perhaps they are right but without absolute evidence, such as we have on Biden in that tape, the Senate will never approve any Impeachment.
Ironically the Dem's spending the last few years calling for Impeachment, even before Trump took office, make this whole thing just seem like another "witch-hunt" against Trump. Its like you accuse your neighbor of keying your car for years but every time you say it happened he has a rock solid alibi. Then one time he actually does it, who the heck is going to believe you at this point. Damn few unless you actually have video of it.
What Trump did is highly illegal, and GOP would be smart to at least admit the fact, as opposed to cover it up.
As for the impeachment, it is a waste of time, since it would have to be fulfilled by the Senate, which is not going to happen.
This would be only the third impeachment of a president, if they proceed with the vote and pass the measure. Neither of the other two has resulted in a conviction in the senate. That does not mean it shouldn't be done.
Nixon was not impeached, because he resigned before the vote. Apparently the Republican leadership in the senate let him know they would vote against him, and he realized that he would have been the very first president of the United States to have ever been removed.
The charges should be heard, any facts discovered should be a part of the public record for posterity. The House of Representatives has a duty to pursue the allegations, and if they find them plausible present that case to the Senate. That is their job.
When the Democrats hired Steele, a British man, to research and write the dossier, it was a contract between private parties. No government officials or public monies involved. 100% legal. When Democrats asked Ukraine for dirt on Trump in 2016, that was asking for information, not a campaign contribution. No government officials or public monies involved.
Trump, on the other hand, pressured Ukraine by withholding public funds and used his public office to do it. That's where he crossed the line. You can't use public office for personal gain.
You are wrong. The President of Ukraine with his own mouth said there was no pressure at all plus there was no pressure in President Trump's words in the phone call NONE.. plus Ukraine knew nothing about the money being withheld.. no connection at all to the phone call. NONE..
So why did the rules change of what a whistler blower could use , such as second hand knowledge just days before this whistle blower who came forward ?? Deep state at it again to remove a sitting president.. and investigation after investigation yet the democrats are crying over Trump asking to look at the corruption in Ukraine.. double standard much??
The whole thing is about timing. This whole Biden thing has been known about for years. And it should have been investigated years ago.
I find this claim unsustainable. The "Biden thing" was an internet hoax. Both Rudy and Donald believe it, so they have been sucked into some sort of conspiracy theory floating around out there. It would be nice to know where that story got it's start, possibly some newsgroup? ?
Could you please give your source for this belief? What informed you that you came around to this opinion?
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