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Old 10-18-2019, 09:08 AM
 
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“This is not decay. It is organized destruction,” he said.

“Secularists and their allies among the ‘progressives’ have marshaled all the force of mass communications, popular culture, the entertainment industry and academia in an unremitting assault on religion and traditional values.”
Another conspiracy theory.

Nobody's marshalling anything, it's just organic change. Attitudes and norms swing one way, then swing another, it's always like that. Barr is trying to make some kind of sinister plot out of it, but there is no plot.

He needs to invent some boogeyman under the bed to scare people, that's what they do best, pitch fear.

 
Old 10-18-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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It's one thing to welcome people in to your congregation you have differences - some times extreme differences - and an entirely other thing to celebrate a lifestyle that most Americans don't live.
If you don't want to embrace a certain lifestyle, then don't. You don't get to judge what the right lifestyle is for everybody else though. It's called acceptance and diversity.
 
Old 10-18-2019, 09:11 AM
 
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I said the death of spirituality has had a profoundly negative overall effect - i said it's a big component to the insanity in America today. I didn't say it's the only component.


Go ahead and deny it...you know it's the truth.
How do you square that idea with the fact that crime rates are down? You must watch too much news that tells you about a stabbing on the other side of the country 5 minutes after it happens and thinking it affects you in any way.
 
Old 10-18-2019, 09:12 AM
 
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I said the death of spirituality has had a profoundly negative overall effect - i said it's a big component to the insanity in America today. I didn't say it's the only component.


Go ahead and deny it...you know it's the truth.
My friend, spirituality is not dead. So killing indigenous peoples, killing in the name of religion (i.e., Inquisition, burning "witches" at the stake), slavery, racism, etc. is spiritual life? Nah, not by a long shot. If having more acceptance and less judgment and allowing people to live their lives the way they see fit is death of spirituality, then bring it on. Believe me, America is insane today for sure, but it was equally or more insane during those horrific times.
 
Old 10-18-2019, 09:15 AM
 
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I said the death of spirituality has had a profoundly negative overall effect - i said it's a big component to the insanity in America today. I didn't say it's the only component.
The waning of organized religion is one of the best things that has happened on earth in my lifetime. I am thrilled to see that the vast majority of educated people have turned against fairy tales told by rapists and scam artists.

And society is much better off. Crime is down, people are healthier and happier, and they have more time to spend with their families than wasting time with fairy tales.
 
Old 10-18-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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All I know is that dude has grown some serious jowls since his first stint as AG. He looks like a bulldog without the underbite.
 
Old 10-18-2019, 09:16 AM
 
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Do you dispute that when society was most religious it was also much more brutal?
 
Old 10-18-2019, 09:18 AM
 
Location: Florida
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The majority of people not choosing to attend the church of your choice and worship the way you'd like them to is not an attack on your religion.
 
Old 10-18-2019, 09:20 AM
 
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I said the death of spirituality has had a profoundly negative overall effect - i said it's a big component to the insanity in America today. I didn't say it's the only component.


Go ahead and deny it...you know it's the truth.

I agree. Spirituality is a component but Spirituality does not have to mean Christian values. I separate spirituality and religion because the belief in a higher power is a human concept not a Christian value alone.

Spiritualty lives inside the person, religion is the gang affiliation and a label.
 
Old 10-18-2019, 09:23 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I think so. And some of the "christian" churches in the Twin Cities here now wave rainbow flags and have gone off in a very political direction - more about social engineering than they are about spiritual well-being.

And the Left wonders why we have people "going postal" and losing it. I think this is a very large component of it.
The 1st amendment says that government cannot influence religion. Not that religion can't influence govt.
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