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I love my health insurance, have never felt screwed by them. Everything was excellent when I had my emergency appendectomy....a nurse made a house call post-op. Lol think the government could/would do that?
We don't care about your UHC...how many times do I have to say this? This thread isn't about Canada.
I don't think any American is packing their bags and headed up north because of your explanations of mediocre health care at best.
Whenever you guys bring up UHC and Canada, and misinformation is given, I will respond.
More Americans care about some sort of UHC than don't.
Yes, I feel the same way when Canadians (and others) give misinformation about the US system.
As you should. However, I am not one. I have been visiting the US snick 1964. I have had family living there since the 1950's, and to this day still have friends scattered about the US. We talk.
I also, visit the Health Section here on CD and read some of the concerns your fellow Americans have. Although not the best way to judge things, it does give a picture of some of the issues, that befalls on Americans, compared to the Canadian system.
I would also add, that during the healthcare debate in the US when Obama was president, the misinformation about Canada's system wasn't just coming from internet boards, but high profile US politicians. Sort of took the misinformation campaign to a new level.
EDIT: Another concern, is that Canada isn't looking for a whole new system, but only to improve the existing one. The US is looking for a different, way, or at least judging by the polls that say Americans aren't happy with the status quo. So, discussions about US healthcare have more at stake.You need proper information, to make wise choices, and if people only want to believe the lies said about other systems, then you may make poor choices, or at least uniformed ones.
As you should. However, I am not one. I have been visiting the US snick 1964. I have had family living there since the 1950's, and to this day still have friends scattered about the US. We talk.
I also, visit the Health Section here on CD and read some of the concerns your fellow Americans have. Although not the best way to judge things, it does give a picture of some of the issues, that befalls on Americans, compared to the Canadian system.
I would also add, that during the healthcare debate in the US when Obama was president, the misinformation about Canada's system wasn't just coming from internet boards, but high profile US politicians. Sort of took the misinformation campaign to a new level.
EDIT: Another concern, is that Canada isn't looking for a whole new system, but only to improve the existing one. The US is looking for a different, way, or at least judging by the polls that say Americans aren't happy with the status quo. So, discussions about US healthcare have more at stake.You need proper information, to make wise choices, and if people only want to believe the lies said about other systems, then you may make poor choices, or at least uniformed ones.
I did not accuse you of saying anything negative about the US system in this thread. I was just agreeing with you in principle. There are some Canadians who post on here who think they know the whole US system inside and out. No one does, not even Americans! Certainly not a lot of American politicians. I'm fairly liberal and I used to cringe when Obama talked about health care. I got into quite a disagreement once here on CD with a Canadian about vaccines; I kept saying there is a program for the uninsured so that no one has to go without, and he told me the federal government's tax funded "Vaccines for Children" program was a charity that could fold any day.
I have no idea what you're talking about re: the Health and Wellness forum. It's basically an alt med forum; anyone who wants to talk about mainstream medicine gets flamed, ridiculed, and more.
It's not clear what the US is looking for. For years, yea decades, I have said what most people want is more benefits at lower cost. Ain't going to happen that way. Some politicians, particularly some running for POTUS, think we all want "Medicare for All". Some think we want "Medicare for All Who Want It". And so on.
Whenever you guys bring up UHC and Canada, and misinformation is given, I will respond.
More Americans care about some sort of UHC than don't.
If by that you mean the dregs and do-nothings, you're right.
But, sorry, average middle class Joe on a budget with a good job with good insurance, mortgage, kids, 2 cars, retirement planning, etc. does not want UHC.
I don't care what the polls say.
I've never been polled in my life.
I know what I see in the real world, nobody wants it unless they're already mooching.
Actually, it's multi-tiered. The country of Canada, itself, admits that some people on Canadian public health care have prescription coverage, some have partial prescription coverage, and some have none at all. Read it on Canada's website, again:
And we're back to our starting point. Unless you are independently wealthy, you can't afford to pay for your health care on your own. You can get away with it while you are young, healthy, and lucky, but sooner or later...
And we're back to our starting point. Unless you are independently wealthy, you can't afford to pay for your health care on your own.
That's why many people choose to earn/buy health insurance. They're betting their health care costs will exceed their premiums plus deductibles (which have become exorbitantly high under Obamacare, as health insurance is no longer nearly as risk-based as it used to be and is instead a wealth redistribution program). The insurance company is betting they don't.
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