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Old 11-14-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Nope.

If Republicans want witnesses with first hand knowledge, they need to demand that those with first hand knowledge step up.
We already have statements from the two primary participants who have first hand knowledge: Trump and Zelensky. Both say there was no QPQ, no pressure, no extortion, no bribe, and the Ukraine got their aid without doing anything in return for it. There's nothing there. Meanwhile, the Dems continue acting the fools in a very public way.

 
Old 11-14-2019, 12:46 PM
 
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If I hear Bob say that he is going to kill his wife when he is talking to John, and he tries to do so, I will probably be called to court to give that testimony. That is me hearing first hand about a murder plot.



They aren't talking about a murder plot in the House right now. Although in a way, the circus is kind of " killing me "
 
Old 11-14-2019, 12:49 PM
 
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This late fall fake impeachment show is a bomb....I bet Nancy is going to just abort unless they pay someone enough to make up something else.
Blasey Ford is available. She can use her fake baby voice to "testify."
 
Old 11-14-2019, 12:49 PM
 
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That's the whole Republican "defense" of Trump in a nutshell: blow smoke and muddy the waters. Call the impeachment a sham, smear and belittle the witnesses, complain it's all unfair, etc. Lots of hand waving.

You know what's missing? Strong statements declaring Trump innocent. Where's Pence? We haven't heard him say, "I know for a fact the president is not guilty of these charges." Same with McConnell.
The burden of proof is on the democrats. If and when little boy schiff comes up with something perhaps a “defense” would be warranted.
But you know this. Yesterday was it for this dog and pony show. The only thing missing is for Pelosi to turn out the lights. Your party is over.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 12:50 PM
 
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None of it matters when there is no due process !!! The accused has a right to face his accuser !!!

The accused has a right to call his/her/its witnesses !!! This made for TV scam may go on in the House but it won't fly in the Senate !!!
Why is the "accused" trying so hard to keep people who may or may not be able to prove his innocence from testifying?
As Donna stated this is an inquiry.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 12:51 PM
 
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We already have statements from the two primary participants who have first hand knowledge: Trump and Zelensky. Both say there was no QPQ, no pressure, no extortion, no bribe, and the Ukraine got their aid without doing anything in return for it. There's nothing there. Meanwhile, the Dems continue acting the fools in a very public way.
Alas, neither one was testifying under oath, and Trump is an unreliable historian.

According to the summary of the phone call, Trump asked Zelensky to do him a favor before receiving millions in security aid authorized by Congress.

Sounds like we need to see the actual transcript of the actual call.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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So, you think you can just start a witch hunt, and then demand that the President prove he didn't do anything wrong.

You dems have become completely unhinged.
They've turned against the ACLU, protector of Constitutional Rights. That's how insane with TDS they've become.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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Bill Taylor is "testifying" that he felt President Trump was intruding on U.S. policy toward Ukraine

I don't recall ever hearing that from any other govt official about his President. Except Democrat fanatics, of course, who no longer matter.
Looks like some people are totally ignorant of the Constitution.

The claim that a President is "intruding on Foreign Policy" is absurd.

The President is the Chief Diplomat. He sets Foreign Policy (but not Geo-Strategy).

The underlings do not set Foreign Policy and if they don't like the policy, they can resign.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 12:53 PM
 
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All this nonsense about the party being over. Too funny.

The public hearings have just started. We've go a ways to go.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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Is there a timeline for this show to end and the House votes and sends it to the Senate.


I don't want that idiot Schiff to waste another $30M on this stupid antic when democrats can choose well, campaign well and take the WH in a year.
They probably don't want to waste DNC money on a presidential campaign they know they're going to lose. So instead are wasting taxpayer money on yet another TDS farce, which is only believed by their low-info base and so accomplishes nothing other than shoring up voters' support of Trump..
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