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Old 09-17-2019, 02:49 PM
 
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Good news. The EPA is apparently going to revoke California's authority to set vehicle standards, perhaps as soon as tomorrow.

This article is from CNN. Please keep that in mind, as that obviously increases the likelihood that it could be 'Fake news'.

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EPA set to revoke California's authority to set vehicle standards

The Environmental Protection Agency is preparing to revoke California's authority to set vehicle emission standards and could make the announcement as early as Wednesday, a source familiar with the plans tells CNN.

The state and Trump administration have clashed repeatedly including over environmental policy. Industry watchers feared that the Trump administration's plan to freeze federal emission standards, a rollback of tightened standards created by the Obama administration, could have led to two auto markets in the US, one subject to more restrictive California regulations and another linked to significantly less stringent federal standards.

The source said the Trump administration will find the EPA previously acted unlawfully by granting the state a waiver from the Clean Air Act and allowing it to develop stricter standards than those of the federal government. About a dozen states have adopted California's standards, which are geared toward the larger goal of curbing greenhouse gases.
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:51 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Ah, that dang state's right stuff goes in more then one direction.
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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MASA
Make America Smoggy Again
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:54 PM
 
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Why is that Good News?
Sticking it *cough *cough* to the liberals *cough* *cough*

Take that *wheezing* libs!

*dies*
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:56 PM
 
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Why is that Good News?
Because we do not need a single state setting the standards for the whole country. And even if we did, California is not the one we should want doing it. Texas would be a much better choice.

In any case, this is good news because it stops the tail from wagging the dog on this issue.

Also, far too much of California's environmental culture is driven by the Democrat left's politically contrived Anthropogenic Global Warming alarmism agenda, which is based to a significant degree on fradulent "science" that has been orchestrated around the promotion of this agenda.
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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Good news. The EPA is apparently going to revoke California's authority to set vehicle standards, perhaps as soon as tomorrow.

This article is from CNN. Please keep that in mind, as that obviously increases the likelihood that it could be 'Fake news'.
Goes along with our Fake President and our Fake EPA
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Old 09-17-2019, 02:58 PM
 
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Because we do not need a single state setting the standards for the whole country. And even if we did, California is not the one we should want doing it. Texas would be a much better choice.

In any case, this is good news because it stops the tail from wagging the dog on this issue.

Also, far too much of California's environmental culture is driven by the Democrat left's politically contrived Anthropogenic Global Warming alarmism agenda, which is based to a significant degree on fradulent "science" that has been orchestrated around the promotion of this agenda.
Enjoy yellow air. Good times.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:01 PM
 
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It is amazing how much the GOP loves pollution. I've never seen anything like the full-fledged love for pollution the GOP has. They equate pollution with freedom. They claim to believe in "State's Rights" until they gain power, then they cannot wait to try to federalize everything.

Blue states should be able to enact laws that protect their air, water and soil in any way they see fit, even if conservatives consider it too extreme. That is the will of blue state voters. And red states should be able to pollute as much as they want, as long as they don't federalize any cleanup. If they voted for representatives that destroyed their environment, they deserve to suffer the results. I don't mind having too many protections.

The funny thing is, auto manufacturers support California's standards. This is all about Trump and the GOP's war against the environment. I don't care what red states do, choke on it. Just leave blue states alone.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Because we do not need a single state setting the standards for the whole country. And even if we did, California is not the one we should want doing it. Texas would be a much better choice.

In any case, this is good news because it stops the tail from wagging the dog on this issue.

Also, far too much of California's environmental culture is driven by the Democrat left's politically contrived Anthropogenic Global Warming alarmism agenda, which is based to a significant degree on fradulent "science" that has been orchestrated around the promotion of this agenda.
In the short term nothing happens. CA will of course go to court and likely get an initial injunction. The Trump administration will likely have to get it to the Supreme Court to have a chance of prevailing.

Even if the administration could prevail quickly the auto makers will stick with the CA rules at least until after the 2020 election. No point to changing designs only to have a Democrat administration reinstate the more stringent rules.

So nothing real until 2021 at the earliest.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Brew City
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"The source said the Trump administration will find the EPA previously acted unlawfully by granting the state a waiver from the Clean Air Act and allowing it to develop stricter standards than those of the federal government. About a dozen states have adopted California's standards, which are geared toward the larger goal of curbing greenhouse gases."

I don't believe that is in the purview of the Executive Branch.

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Because we do not need a single state setting the standards for the whole country. And even if we did, California is not the one we should want doing it. Texas would be a much better choice.

In any case, this is good news because it stops the tail from wagging the dog on this issue.

Also, far too much of California's environmental culture is driven by the Democrat left's politically contrived Anthropogenic Global Warming alarmism agenda, which is based to a significant degree on fradulent "science" that has been orchestrated around the promotion of this agenda.
You have no idea what you're talking about. California was granted the waiver because of the horrible smog they deal with (due to geography). California doesn't set the standards for the rest of the country, they simply have a large population so it's beneficial for auto manufacturers to adhere to CA's standards for everyone. Take it up with the manufacturers. Not to mention 12 other states agreed with California's stricter standards.
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