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Old 09-17-2019, 03:10 PM
 
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Honest Abe killed a half a million or so to keep the states from going off the reservation, so there is that.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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MASA
Make America Smoggy Again
This has NOTHING to do with EMISSIONS standard but keep lying.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Brew City
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Too bad car manufacturers want stricter standards.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...rds-california

https://www.wsj.com/articles/car-com...em-11568068636

What is Trump going to do if manufacturers maintain current standards, meddle in the private market? He wouldn't do that, would he?
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Evergreen, Colorado
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No state can usurp federal authority.
Except during the Obama administration when states took it upon themselves to implement their own
Immigration policy, the tea party gullible thought that was just fine. Hypocrisy much?
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Kinda cute when you think about it.

I have the authority!

No, I have the authority!

No, neither of you have the authority. And to be blunt neither of you don't even have the moral or logical right to exist so there's that.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Actually, no. The EPA has the authority to regulate this. You guys certainly thought so when Obama was at the switch. And you were right, at least about that. Of course there was a lot of discussion and disagreement about the standards that the Obama administration published. But the EPA's authority to regulate these standards was not part of that disagreement.

There is no reason why a state should have preeminent authority over the national government when it comes to vehicle standards. And according to the law and the constitution, they do not.

What do you think that the reason for an injunction would be, other than that this person is just a partisan judge who would prefer that a Democrat was president and making these decisions?
The administration appears to be claiming the grant of the rights to set standards to CA was illegal. CA will get an injunction on the basis it is legal. CA may very well win that even at the SC.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Honest Abe killed a half a million or so to keep the states from going off the reservation, so there is that.
Collaterally damaged, not killed.

Didn't you learn that in your government school?

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Old 09-17-2019, 03:14 PM
 
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Except during the Obama administration when states took it upon themselves to implement their own
Immigration policy, the tea party gullible thought that was just fine. Hypocrisy much?
That didn’t usurp federal authority.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:14 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Exactly. Apparently, the OP is too young to remember the LA of the 1950’s and 1960’s when the smog was a running gag for comedians and late nite talk shows. It began to negativity impact California’s economy
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In the 90s they had smog days where it was harmful to be outside.

Conservatives really do operate on nostalgia..
are you aware that they're actually not getting rid of emissions standards?

apparently not.
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Old 09-17-2019, 03:14 PM
 
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The administration appears to be claiming the grant of the rights to set standards to CA was illegal. CA will get an injunction on the basis it is legal. CA may very well win that even at the SC.
Because you say so. Alrighty then.
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