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I didn't mention any specific policy Bud! Stop the strawmen! Some of the 'helping' is absolutely not good but that is not my point and frankly you are to obtuse to continue this conversation.
As a result of all that "helping" (welfare, etc.) we have generational poverty. Half of all US births every year are paid for by Medicaid (the public assistance health care program for the poor), and 70% of those born poor never rise above the bottom 20% income level (maximum income $25,000) their entire lives.
Obviously, you didn't read the article. The author pays 31% in taxes in Sweden vs 22% in USA, while getting way more services. Yeah, free college education and health care are worth much more than that 9% income difference. Not to mention near-zero flat fee property payment instead of property tax in US that drives retirees from their homes. Etc, etc.
No, California is nowhere close - it's just typical US state with higher taxes, but all the same problems like other US states.
And, please, "extensive American social safety net" exists only in your imagination. If tomorrow I lose my job, less than in a few months I would have to sell my house and live on the street, while totally forgetting about health care etc. In US if you get a problem once in your life - you are doomed for the rest of it.
Exactly. I don't understand why it is so hard for some to figure out that, say 10k per year in health premiums is equivalent to 10% tax on a 100k income. Or 50k tuition per year per child is equivalent to whatever ... over a working career. Or 20-30k in daycare, etc...
And then payroll taxes and property taxes are still taxes that need to be accounted for...
My very good friend is a single mother who is now a widow. She in her 40s and struggling working part time at her father's mechanic shop. They are everywhere. How about moms whose husband leave or are abusive. Should they stay and be beaten just so they don't struggle or leave? Ever hear of woman's shelters or do you wish they just took responsibility and lived on the street 24/7 with their kids. I know they all should be psychic so they can tease out all the possibilities and make the absolute right choices. Do you really think people have this kinda insight into the future. Is it at all possible in your little world for some to struggle who are not irresponsible or at fault?
There’s no life insurance? Why was she depending on one income?
Not all them are irresponsible nor is it their fault - FACT
You want to answer the question as well, well you already admitted it so we already won this argument. Stop your guy's one dimensional and simplistic answer to these facts and stop the strawmen.
Ok tell me all about “most Americans struggling”
Your story had absolutely nothing to do with “most Americans”
11-18-2019, 12:56 PM
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As a result of all that "helping" (welfare, etc.) we have generational poverty. Half of all US births every year are paid for by Medicaid (the public assistance health care program for the poor), and 70% of those born poor never rise above the bottom 20% income level (maximum income $25,000) their entire lives.
This is not what my posts are about! Just because of one form of helping is not or does not work does not mean that any form should not be granted. This argument is beyond the points being made.
This is not what my posts are about! Just because of one form of helping is not or does not work does not mean that any form should not be granted. This argument is beyond the points being made.
From the best I can tell, you’re just mad that life isn’t easy.
11-18-2019, 12:57 PM
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Ok tell me all about “most Americans struggling”
Your story had absolutely nothing to do with “most Americans”
That's your strawman - it was not about 'most Americans.' Jeez Try following the convo! It was an example, which you requested, about those that can be struggling but are not irresponsible nor at fault.
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