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View Poll Results: Do you approve?
Yes 102 89.47%
No 6 5.26%
Uncertain 4 3.51%
Approve, but my hatred for Trump makes me unable to give him any credit for this 2 1.75%
Voters: 114. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-25-2019, 06:24 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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wondering if maybe even the TDS crowd can grudgingly appreciate this one.

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President Trump signed a bipartisan bill into law Monday, making animal cruelty a federal crime. The Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture Act, or PACT Act, bans abusive behavior including crushing, burning, drowning, suffocating, impaling and other bodily injury toward any non-human mammals, birds, reptiles or amphibians.
The PACT Act, introduced in January by Democratic Florida Congressman Ted Deutch and his Republican colleague, Vern Buchanan, expands the Animal Crush Video Prohibition Act, which was passed by Congress in 2010 and made the creation and distribution of animal crushing videos illegal. However, the new act closes a loophole by prohibiting the underlying acts of animal abuse, according to the office of Congressman Deutch.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...ny-2019-11-25/
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Old 11-25-2019, 06:27 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Yes. I'm so glad it will be a federal crime.
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Old 11-25-2019, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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I approve just about any law that prevents cruelty and torture of animals. It will be interesting to see if this survives constitutional scrutiny however. I've heard of PACT but haven't read it so I'm not sure how the federal government has established its ability to adopt a law like this. It seems to fall in the jurisdiction of the separate states. I can understnad the previous law, which addressed the distribution of videos, therefore making it involved with interstate commerce. I certainly hope this sticks, we'll see. I'll have to take a peek and see how they established fedral jurisdiction for this.
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Old 11-25-2019, 06:54 PM
 
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wondering if maybe even the TDS crowd can grudgingly appreciate this one.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...ny-2019-11-25/
It's unconstitutional, and I do not approve. If the government stuck to the Constitution, it wouldn't much matter whether Trump or someone else were President because each state would be making its own decisions, and everyone could choose to live with like-minded people without having to worry about being oppressed by "crazy" people in other states.
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Old 11-25-2019, 07:01 PM
 
Location: City Data Land
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wondering if maybe even the TDS crowd can grudgingly appreciate this one.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...ny-2019-11-25/
Not grudgingly. I'm very grateful it was signed into law
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Old 11-25-2019, 07:05 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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wondering if maybe even the TDS crowd can grudgingly appreciate this one.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbs...ny-2019-11-25/
The TDS crowd are the ones that support Trump.

Good for him for signing this. We rescue animals and have come across quite a few that have been abused.
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Old 11-25-2019, 08:02 PM
 
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I'm against animal cruelty but am against more federal crimes. I don't want the federal government enforcing criminal laws. This should be a state matter.
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Old 11-25-2019, 08:05 PM
 
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Good for BOTH a democrat and a republican to come up with this bill.
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Old 11-25-2019, 08:07 PM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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I don't know about this one.

Does this mean that hunting or slaughtering animals for food can be a felony?
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Old 11-26-2019, 12:11 AM
 
Location: Virginia
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I don't know about this one.

Does this mean that hunting or slaughtering animals for food can be a felony?
No. Our laws already define animal cruelty; it has nothing to do hunting food.
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