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Old 12-08-2019, 08:02 PM
 
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I am 100% in your corner. This entire argument is total absurdity. There are no parallels whatsoever that can be drawn between Africans forcibly removed from their homes and white people serving contractual obligations or, if prisoners, banished to the colonies as labor. Only someone with a concsiousness of guilt about Black slavery and how it happened would make such an argument.

I'm done here, too.
It’s just ignorance on that poster’s part.
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:10 PM
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It’s just ignorance on that poster’s part.

Look in the mirror!
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Old 12-08-2019, 08:10 PM
 
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Do you consider prison labor in modern prisons to be slavery as well?
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:06 PM
 
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White slavery won’t get you votes or Facebook likes.
But White guilt will!

A similar thread I started in mid-February: city-data.com/forum/politics-other-controversies/3015719-there-any-notable-cases-non-white.html.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:13 PM
 
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LOL.


you all sit here and tell blacks to let go of our slavery lineage and it's impact, then turn around asking for attention for white indentured servants. Insanity.

If you really want to have fun we can talk about Native Americans that owned black slaves.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:35 PM
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LOL.


you all sit here and tell blacks to let go of our slavery lineage and it's impact, then turn around asking for attention for white indentured servants. Insanity.

If you really want to have fun we can talk about Native Americans that owned black slaves.

HA! No one is asking for attention. Funny all the triggered people on here are upset by just mentioning some historic facts.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:35 PM
 
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Why are the early white slaves ignored in the discussion of America's first slaves?

Is it because of modern politics, ignorance, the nuanced categorization of 'slave' and 'indentured servant', the plight of Africans being more recent and more lasting, or a combination of all these factors?

It is not normal politics or ignorance, its racial politics and it definitely does not fit the necessary narrative
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:36 PM
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Do you consider prison labor in modern prisons to be slavery as well?
Really! Because all indentured servants were rapist , murders, and such deserving of such treatment.
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Old 12-08-2019, 09:46 PM
 
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Here we go again. As a descendant of both slaves and indentured laborers, there is a difference. Guess common sense isn’t common though.
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:00 PM
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Here we go again. As a descendant of both slaves and indentured laborers, there is a difference. Guess common sense isn’t common though.
Not in the cases I cited. The only difference is your guy's cherry picking definitions of what constitutes a slave. I'm appealing to actual experiences of people who were slaves in practice despite whatever name you label them. If you want to call them contracted/indentured slaves go ahead. But your ignorance and refusal to do so because you fear diminishing African slavery is what is painfully stupid.

How about some Irish youths brought over by the order of England against their will as seen in the Quarterly Courts of Essex County Massachusetts Vol. II (1912) pp.294-297. This is just one of many examples, in 1661, of ship masters kidnapping and then selling them to planters in the colonies. Do you think just because some paper was written up by these fools that this does not mean they were slaves? Yeah, keep kidding yourself!

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