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It may explode with excitement and joy. These are good times for Trump. The "impeachment" process has been exposed as a big sham and the polls show his support is growing from it.
I guess people like having a president in office who abuses his power. Well, nothing much can be done about that. But I hardly think these are "good times" for Trump. Have you see his perpetual scowl? That is not the face of a happy man.
If she did then she'd do her job and there would be a Senate trial going on as we speak rather than her obstruction of Congress in an effort to extort the Senate.
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Originally Posted by trobesmom
Ask Trump is he's feeling impeached.
I'd imagine he doesn't given how well his fundraising is going and the lack of a trial going on.
Well, all the onslaught of newly created threads with their bravado is kind of telling, isn't it?
Yep. They’re stung, and they should be. If they would’ve held him accountable over the last 3 years, this may not have happened. But they encouraged his bad behavior.
There is nothing in the Constitution that says the House must "send" anything to the Senate by any means. And the Senate does not follow Jefferson's "rules". The Senate could set a trial date now and proceed.
The issue is that no one really can say for sure if other aspects of the Constitution , like due process, are or aren't applicable AFTER the House has completed their " sole power to Impeach." It might be argued that the circumstances of the entire meaning of Impeachment requires the same applicable concepts expressed in the Constitution as other matters that leave the House and move on.
There is nothing in the Constitution that says the House must "send" anything to the Senate by any means. And the Senate does not follow Jefferson's "rules". The Senate could set a trial date now and proceed.
Incorrect. Both the US Senate and the US House adopted Jeffersons manual in the early 1800s
It tells them HOW, via parliamentary procedure, to follow the Constitution.
Consider it a twist on the old question about a tree falling in the forest with no one to hear it: If the House adopts articles of impeachment but never sends them to the Senate, is a president truly impeached?
A Harvard law professor, who also served as a Democrat-called impeachment witness, answered with a resounding “no” in a column that speaks to the deep dilemma House Speaker Nancy Pelosi faces as she sits on two articles of impeachment against President Trump.
Pelosi, D-Calif., is apparently using the delay as leverage to extract favorable terms for a Senate trial. But Noah Feldman wrote for Bloomberg that an “indefinite delay” would pose a “serious problem”—as impeachment only technically happens when the articles are transmitted to the Senate.
“Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. And the Senate must actually hold a trial,” Feldman wrote. “If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president,” he continued. “If the articles are not transmitted, Trump could legitimately say he wasn’t truly impeached at all.”
The Democrat's own Harvard Law experts are insisting that Trump has not been impeached, until this matter has been conveyed by the House to the Senate. For what that is worth, and one might expect the Democrats to think that is worth a lot. Feldman being one of their hand-chosen experts and all.
I guess people like having a president in office who abuses his power. Well, nothing much can be done about that. But I hardly think these are "good times" for Trump. Have you see his perpetual scowl? That is not the face of a happy man.
He didn't abuse his power. A pathetic allegation of abuse of power is not a proven abuse of power. Trump appears happier than at any point in the last two years.
The issue is that no one really can say for sure if other aspects of the Constitution , like due process, are or aren't applicable AFTER the House has completed their " sole power to Impeach." It might be argued that the circumstances of the entire meaning of Impeachment requires the same applicable concepts expressed in the Constitution as other matters that leave the House and move on.
SCOTUS can say, and they have, that the Senate has sole power to conduct an impeachment trial in whatever manner they decide and that it is not reviewable.
So, please, allow me. Here is a quote from a report about that article, putting it in its proper perspective:
The Democrat's own Harvard Law experts are insisting that Trump has not been impeached, until this matter has been conveyed by the House to the Senate. For what that is worth, and one might expect the Democrats to think that is worth a lot. Feldman being one of their hand-chosen experts and all.
Then a lot of retractions should be made.
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