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Old 01-16-2020, 09:05 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The aid that gets kicked back to Democrats in their pay to play scamming.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:06 AM
 
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They hate us and Trump stands in their way of getting the real revenge they are after !!!

They=democrats for the uninformed !!!

us=citizens and green card holders and legal residents !!!
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:08 AM
 
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That is irrelevant. The WH had no authority to hold up the aid at all, regardless of any deadlines. That power resides in congress only.

The actual report is here:
https://www.gao.gov/assets/710/703909.pdf
That's not a crime. Besides the deadline was met so Congress has no say at all.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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so the GAO is somehow a partisan organization? Did you bother to read the opinion?

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The Trump administration’s decision to freeze the release of security assistance to Ukraine last year violated federal law, the Government Accountability Office (GAO) said in a report Thursday.

The independent watchdog said the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) withheld the appropriated funds last summer, not as a programmatic delay but in order to advance the president’s own agenda.

Doing so, the watchdog concluded, violates the Impoundment Control Act, a law that governs Congress's role in the federal budget process.

“Faithful execution of the law does not permit the President to substitute his own policy priorities for those that Congress has enacted into law,” the report says. “OMB withheld funds for a policy reason, which is not permitted under the Impoundment Control Act (ICA). ... Therefore, we conclude that OMB violated the ICA.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...lding-aid-from
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:10 AM
 
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No, Trump was just kidding when he said I have a favor to ask of you, and then the funds were somehow delayed. Any fool can see those two events were just a coincidence !
And was released after Trump got caught red handed.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:11 AM
 
Location: Kansas City, MISSOURI
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That's not a crime. Besides the deadline was met so Congress has no say at all.
So, the logic of Trumpies now has devolved into, 'Something done illegally is not a crime.'

Yes it was a crime, according to the GAO.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:12 AM
 
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So, the logic of Trumpies now has devolved into, 'Something done illegally is not a crime.'

Yes it was a crime, according to the GAO.
Funds were not withheld, so you can't argue that funds were withheld illegally.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:13 AM
 
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There is another ACT(Treaty) signed by Bill Clinton, on November 10, 1999 that supersedes.
Read it yourself, instead of other people misinforming you on purpose.




https://www.congress.gov/treaty-docu.../document-text


https://www.congress.gov/106/cdoc/td...-106tdoc16.pdf


https://www.congress.gov/treaty-docu...th-congress/16
You're really, really good at avoiding the issues and pivoting to something else.

Trump supporters have mastered it.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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It would have been illegal not to slow the transfer of funds.

https://www.congress.gov/treaty-docu...th-congress/16



Beside that, had he gone beyond the set deadline, you may have a leg to stand on.
So you believe radial right talking points rather than a independent agency that oversee Congress, GAO? He could shoot someone. The GAO has a leg to stand on.

Remove and Indict Trump 2020.
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Old 01-16-2020, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Most lawless and unqualified administration in history.
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