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Old 01-23-2020, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Dave_n_Tenn View Post
Bankruptcy is about math, numbers.... there's no spin. Did you look at the actual data over time?
When we are talking about 2019, and you try to refute it by offering numbers from a different year, then of course you are spinning it.

Spinning for the leader

 
Old 01-23-2020, 12:52 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber View Post
When we are talking about 2019, and you try to refute it by offering numbers from a different year, then of course you are spinning it.

Spinning for the leader
Bankruptcy (farming) doesn't happen in a vacuum, like most everything... it happens in context. Weather, markets, consumer cycles, disease, etc. However if 2019 is your benchmark year, I'll assume next year you'll post data even if it's positive? Is that a reasonable assumption? and you'll hold yourself to that standard?

I'll await your answer.
 
Old 01-23-2020, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
The op failed to mention that the trade deal with China will reverse this.

Could you imagine if the Trump haters had to tell the truth for a day.

It would be just like the movie Liar Liar.

Deception and dishonesty are all the have because Trump is succeeding, and the country is doing well because of it.
 
Old 01-23-2020, 12:58 PM
 
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
The op failed to mention that the trade deal with China will reverse this.

Could you imagine if the Trump haters had to tell the truth for a day.

It would be just like the movie Liar Liar.
Trump haters being honest? Right.
 
Old 01-23-2020, 01:02 PM
 
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Farmer suicide rates are way up too, along with bankruptcies. Sad that some farmers are killing themselves due to Trump's failed trade war. Children are losing a parent, spouses are becoming widows all because Trump caused a trade war and this has caused tremendous hardship on rural farmers, many who voted for him.

https://www.newsweek.com/farmers-sui...consin-1428169

"National Farmers Union executive and active Wisconsin dairy farmer joined Midwest agricultural leaders this week in condemning President Donald Trump's ongoing trade war with China, warning of increased financial stress and suicide among farmers."
 
Old 01-23-2020, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Originally Posted by stburr91 View Post
The op failed to mention that the trade deal with China will reverse this.

Could you imagine if the Trump haters had to tell the truth for a day.

It would be just like the movie Liar Liar.
When the trade deal was announced, soybeans went down 20%. The Chinese agreed to buy a set amount of US commodities, with no agreement as to what or when they would buy. The Chinese say it will depend on market conditions. Tariffs remain in place, so they will probably conduct purchases through a duty-free organization.

Trump is desperate for a deal, and the Chinese are skinning him alive.
 
Old 01-23-2020, 01:05 PM
 
Location: ✶✶✶✶
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The whole idea of trade wars is apparently so that there will be "fairness in the market." "Fairness" is usually more of a liberal cause célèbre.

It's 2020, it's Bizarro World and Biff Tannen is still the president.
 
Old 01-23-2020, 01:05 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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U.S. Farm Bankruptcies Surge 24% on Strain From Trump Trade War
How many farms are in the US? ..... 2,029,200.
Of those 2,029,200 farms, how many declared bankruptcy? ....... 580.


Is this some kind of national emergency? .......... No. It's not even very important.
 
Old 01-23-2020, 01:08 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
How many farms are in the US? ..... 2,029,200.
Of those 2,029,200 farms, how many declared bankruptcy? ....... 580.


Is this some kind of national emergency? .......... No. It's not even very important.

Not even important? It's very important to the rural farming states - Trump's base. There are more farmers and farms than there are coal miners and coal mines. There are more farmers and farms than there are steel mill workers and steel mills.
 
Old 01-23-2020, 01:16 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Rural and specifically farmers are rock solid for president Trump. Don't worry your pretty little dem heads about it.

Find something else to beach about, this is a loser for the dems.
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