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This is a good thing to remember because often we only think of the present, but not the precedent.
Unfortunately, I fear we're already headed toward this when so many people these days don't trust the traditional news sources.
It’s the Constitution, Stupid
To forgo impeachment would be tantamount to saying that our president is now a king
By Thomas Friedman
If we say, as Republicans do, that what Trump did is not an impeachable offense, we are telling ourselves and every future president — in direct contradiction of what the founders wrote in the Constitution — that it is OK to enlist a foreign power to tilt the election your way. Can you imagine how much money candidates could raise from Saudi Arabia or China to tilt a future election their way, or how many cyberwarriors they could enlist from Russia or Iran to create fake news, suppress voting or spur outrage?
The integrity of our elections would be shattered, and we would never again have a legitimate president — a president, who, whether or not you liked him or her, was at least seen as legitimately elected. That would be a prescription for permanent political chaos, as no future presidents’ authority would be respected if they were elected on the basis of foreign interference.
Heard the same argument over the Clinton impeachment. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now. Unless the Dems have a statement from Trump saying that he not only blackmailed Ukraine but that he did it for the reason the Democrats are claiming, there isn't enough evidence to convict him. A conviction based on the evidence provided would set a horrendous precedent, far worse than what you claim above. We would see every president being impeached simply because the other party doesn't like them, no matter how many attempts it took to get that impeachment started.
The same people who opposed impeachment and removal of a president guilty of multiple felonies are now claiming that if the president is not removed despite committing no crime, it means he's a king. Never go full partisan hack.
Sorry - are you referring to Friedman? I don't know his past opinions, but it's possible that even people who didn't advocate impeachment/conviction a month or two ago might have changed their minds, given the continuing revelations of Trump misconduct.
Sorry - are you referring to Friedman? I don't know his past opinions, but it's possible that even people who didn't advocate impeachment/conviction a month or two ago might have changed their minds, given the continuing revelations of Trump misconduct.
I'm not necessarily talking about any specific person, just the idea that refusal to remove a president who broke no laws all of a sudden means the US has a king is beyond stupid. It would be hard for me to believe that a rational and thinking human with a fully functional brain would come up with that.
I could see it if someone was just producing political propaganda aimed at low information groups of partisans, but not a legitimate position someone would honestly take.
Why should the Democrats work with tRump when they don't agree with his legislative directive and neither do their voters?
It's called work to find compromise so that they can achieve consensus. The my way or the highway approach is why we are 22 trillion in debt, fighting wars in 5 countries, have 13 million illegals, lousy health care, and public education getting worse not better.
News flash. Party doesn't equal country and they are supposed to represent everyone, not just 50% of the population.
No matter what they're told, or what the evidence points to, the left has their minds made up and will continue with their delusions, their lies, and their false narratives until the cows come home.
They should all get on the non-binary unicorns and fly off to Camp Pocahontas where they can all stay in their safe spaces and commiserate with each other on how bad they've been mistreated.
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It's called work to find compromise so that they can achieve consensus. The my way or the highway approach is why we are 22 trillion in debt, fighting wars in 5 countries, have 13 million illegals, lousy health care, and public education getting worse not better.
News flash. Party doesn't equal country and they are supposed to represent everyone, not just 50% of the population.
Hardliners are the real poison in the system.
Except to tRump and Repubs, working together means the Democrats rolling over and rubber stamping their (Republicans) agenda. They've made it clear they don't want to compromise with Democrats at all
Except to tRump and Repubs, working together means the Democrats rolling over and rubber stamping their (Republicans) agenda. They've made it clear they don't want to compromise with Democrats at all
With what the democrats have pulled in the last three years, you think that signals the will to "work together", "compromise", or anything short of a national cold war?
You are absolutely out of your mind.
You can't try to remove the President via extra democratic means, twice, and then complain about the other side not "compromising".
All you can do is pray to your rainbow colored god every night that the Republicans never gain the ability to deliver the political payback that the democrat machine so richly deserves.
At this point, Trump's base would agree to anything just to slightly annoy the progressive traitors in this nation. You are fifty light-years away from compromise. Its not even an option in this universe, as far as you are concerned going forward. There is a price for every action, and now your party will politically pay it by one means or another.
Before you start imagining a landslide, keep in mind that Hillary had 2% MORE of the vote.
Well don’t care if it’s a landslide or not. That 2% is meaningless, she still loss.
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