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Old 02-07-2020, 11:48 AM
 
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actually Yang is the one who has the best chance to beat trump...he is somewhat moderate, and his UBI has a following from both the left and the right


Yang with Tulsi as a running mate would be a powerhouse to get the independents


Biden and his corruption and previous racism is done
America will not elect Bernie or Warren
Bloomy lost a lot of NYC support with his Soda tax/ban...his only advantage is his money
What’s the price tag on this UBI, and how will it be paid?

Also, for clarity, if someone has an unskilled job paying $8 an hour, or approximately $320 a week or around $1300 a month, he can quit and get $1000 for nothing? So effectively he is working a full time job for $300 a month, or even less once you add in commuting costs. Is the purpose of this to persuade unskilled people to quit their jobs and collect free money from taxpayers?

 
Old 02-07-2020, 12:19 PM
 
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They really should break thing thing into segments so people don’t have to sit through the whole thing if they aren’t interested. Something like this...

45 minutes: Orange Man Bad
15 minutes: special privileges and freebies for illegals
15 minutes: why all white man is racist
15 minutes: why McDonald’s should pay $40/hr
15 minutes: how to exterminate the rich and seize their assets
5 minutes: general pandering
Republican debates in 2016:

10 minute intro: Black president bad!
10 minutes: we won't take yer guns because we like when them kids get shot at school. Just a cost of doing business with the gun folks
5 minutes: compare body part sizes to each other
10 minutes: Trump makes fun of how everyone looks, not realizing he's a fat dude with a weird combover and ugly teeth
45 minutes: lie about how we have a better healthcare plan than the Democrats, but then in reality we just wanted to take away pre-existing conditions and put those people (like 1/3 of the population) in high risk pools and have no actual plan
Power hour on hating brown people: 30 minutes on Mexicans, 30 minutes on Muslims
5 minutes: I luv me some Jesus
15 minutes: Socialism via massive tax cuts for the extremely wealthy, while we call all the programs helping middle and low income Americans "socialist" and decide to cut them
10 minutes: let's make stuff up about ripping babies out at 9 months
5 minutes of closing arguments: Hillary Benghazi Obama Fast and Furious Kenyan Muslim Uranium One Deep State.
 
Old 02-07-2020, 12:22 PM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
actually Yang is the one who has the best chance to beat trump...he is somewhat moderate, and his UBI has a following from both the left and the right


Yang with Tulsi as a running mate would be a powerhouse to get the independents


Biden and his corruption and previous racism is done
America will not elect Bernie or Warren
Bloomy lost a lot of NYC support with his Soda tax/ban...his only advantage is his money
i agree those two are the only ones i would actually pay attention to if they got that far. Unfortunately i think that would only happen if everyone else somehow died off the morning of the Democratic Convention. And even then we would probably get Hillary and Michelle.
 
Old 02-07-2020, 12:23 PM
 
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What’s the price tag on this UBI, and how will it be paid?

Also, for clarity, if someone has an unskilled job paying $8 an hour, or approximately $320 a week or around $1300 a month, he can quit and get $1000 for nothing? So effectively he is working a full time job for $300 a month, or even less once you add in commuting costs. Is the purpose of this to persuade unskilled people to quit their jobs and collect free money from taxpayers?
Not everyone that makes minimum wage is lazy.

I think very few people would stop working, but at the same time they might think, wow, I can actually afford more food, or prescriptions, or a couple more articles of clothing for my kid, or school supplies, while they maintain a full time job that might provide them with health insurance benefits. Or maybe they can put some money away for their kids for college. Or maybe they're trying to pay for college.
 
Old 02-07-2020, 12:25 PM
 
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I expect the knives to come out with everyone going after ButtiJEB! and Bernie. Should be funny if nothing else
 
Old 02-07-2020, 12:25 PM
 
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Unlike the snooze-fests they've been so far, tonight looks to be entertaining. So far they've been spoon-fed anti-Trump questions and little attacking of each other. Based on the soundbites I've heard this week from many of the Democrat candidates, they'll be going after each other (very similar to the Republicans four years ago).
Yeah, debates should be judged on whether or not their snoozefests. Instead we should have a clown as a contestant that speaks in garbled sentences and makes fun of everybody.
 
Old 02-07-2020, 12:27 PM
 
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero View Post
actually Yang is the one who has the best chance to beat trump...he is somewhat moderate, and his UBI has a following from both the left and the right


Yang with Tulsi as a running mate would be a powerhouse to get the independents


Biden and his corruption and previous racism is done
America will not elect Bernie or Warren
Bloomy lost a lot of NYC support with his Soda tax/ban...his only advantage is his money
Yang might be appealing to a lot of independents. Democrats, for the most part, don't like Tulsi. They don't like Trump either, but Tulsi isn't the slightest bit helpful.
 
Old 02-07-2020, 12:34 PM
 
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I'll be watching.

Nationally it looks like it's between Sanders and Biden. Iowa and New Hampshire are a small fraction of the population.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...ent-primary-d/

Who’s Leading the Democratic Primary
https://morningconsult.com/2020-democratic-primary/
 
Old 02-07-2020, 12:55 PM
 
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Originally Posted by fusillirob1983 View Post
Republican debates in 2016:

10 minute intro: Black president bad!
10 minutes: we won't take yer guns because we like when them kids get shot at school. Just a cost of doing business with the gun folks
5 minutes: compare body part sizes to each other
10 minutes: Trump makes fun of how everyone looks, not realizing he's a fat dude with a weird combover and ugly teeth
45 minutes: lie about how we have a better healthcare plan than the Democrats, but then in reality we just wanted to take away pre-existing conditions and put those people (like 1/3 of the population) in high risk pools and have no actual plan
Power hour on hating brown people: 30 minutes on Mexicans, 30 minutes on Muslims
5 minutes: I luv me some Jesus
15 minutes: Socialism via massive tax cuts for the extremely wealthy, while we call all the programs helping middle and low income Americans "socialist" and decide to cut them
10 minutes: let's make stuff up about ripping babies out at 9 months
5 minutes of closing arguments: Hillary Benghazi Obama Fast and Furious Kenyan Muslim Uranium One Deep State.
Lol you must have been watching an SNL skit bro and mistook it for the actual debate.
 
Old 02-07-2020, 01:00 PM
 
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I'll be watching.

Nationally it looks like it's between Sanders and Biden. Iowa and New Hampshire are a small fraction of the population.

Who’s Leading the Democratic Primary

Those pollsters you are quoting got Iowa completely wrong about Biden. Looks like they will be completely wrong about NH too.


Why do you still believe them.
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