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Old 02-29-2020, 04:12 AM
 
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I would say you don't understand the economic impact this would have on our country. Farmers would be hit the hardest. Most have undocumented workers because no American wants to farm. They do the grunge work because we don't want to. Our country couldn't survive without them. And here we treat them like dirt, so unfair.
What makes you think Americans wouldn’t do grunt work if wages werent depressed by criminal illegals doing work for far less.

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Old 02-29-2020, 05:18 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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You're not comprehending.

No courts. Heavy hand of the law. Employer raids. 20k agents daily arrests.

Thousands of bus loads daily.

Cut off welfare.

Pure fantasy land.


If you think we can round up people without charges and trials and deport them in the middle of the night I don't know what to tell you. But if they were successful, who do you think they will come for next ?

I'm sure you've heard this before;

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Martin Niemöller
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:22 AM
 
Location: Connecticut
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What makes you think Americans wouldn’t do grunt work if wages werent depressed by criminal illegals doing work for far less.



Get a grip - no American is going to pick lettuce or avocado's for $4 an hour.
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:23 AM
 
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Pure fantasy land.

Really so if I kicked in your door, moved in and called myself your undocumented resident. You couldn’t kick me out without charges and trial...interesting...
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:26 AM
 
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Get a grip - no American is going to pick lettuce or avocado's for $4 an hour.
Do you have a problem with reading comprehension. I stated if wages weren’t depressed by illegals working for less!
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Old 02-29-2020, 05:39 AM
 
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Pure fantasy land.


If you think we can round up people without charges and trials and deport them in the middle of the night I don't know what to tell you. But if they were successful, who do you think they will come for next ?

I'm sure you've heard this before;

"First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me."
Martin Niemöller

Another fail post.

Illegal aliens are easy to spot and once contact is made simple to discover they ard illegal.

It could be done. It would be done. If people woukd actually do it and get it done.

Blah blah ya we can round up illegals and deport them
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Old 02-29-2020, 06:27 AM
 
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it was called 'operation wetb@@k, a policy that repatriated about 1.4 million illegal aliens that were in america from mexico, president eisenhower repatriated them along with their american-born children.

Critics say it would be impossible today to repatriate 20 million or more criminal invaders. I say the critics are wrong. It was done once in american history. It can be done again!

What do you say?
yes!
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Old 02-29-2020, 06:31 AM
 
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I say why?

I won't argue its impossible, but would obviously require a great deal of effort and money. What benefits do you expect to see that would offset the costs?
What do you think it is costing us NOW?


"One Hospital in one city in the USA
VERY INTENSE...thanks....long read but this situation and its long-term magnitude (and current status) warrant it at times...

This is only One Hospital in one city in the USA[/

Parkland Memorial Hospital in Dallas,Texas is a fairly famous institution
and for a variety of reasons:

1. John F. Kennedy died there in 1963

2. Lee Harvey Oswald died there shortly after

3. Jack Ruby-who killed Lee Harvey Oswald, died there a few years later..by
coincidence

*"On the flip side, Parkland is also home to the second busiest maternity
ward in the country with almost 16,000 new babies arriving each year*

*(That's almost 44 per day---every day)*

*A recent patient survey indicated that 70 percent of the women who gave
birth at Parkland in the first three months of 2006 were illegal
immigrants.. That's 11,200 anchor babies born every year just in Dallas.*

According to the article, the hospital spent $70.7 million delivering
15,938 babies in 2004 but managed to end up with almost $8 million dollars
in surplus funding. Medicaid kicked in $34.5 million, Dallas County
taxpayers kicked in $31.3 million and the feds tossed in another $9.5
million.

The average patient in Park land's maternity ward is 25 years old, married
and giving birth to her second child. She is also an illegal immigrant.. By
law, pregnant women cannot be denied medical care based on their
immigration status or ability to pay.

OK, fine. That doesn't mean they should receive better care than everyday,
middle-class American citizens. But at Parkland Hospital, they do. Parkland
Memorial Hospital has nine prenatal clinics. NINE.

The Dallas Morning News article followed a Hispanic woman who was a patient
at one of the clinics and pregnant with her third child ---her previous two
were also born at Parkland. Her first two deliveries were free and the
Mexican native was grateful because it would have cost $200 to have them in
Mexico. This time, the hospital wants her to pay $10 per visit and $100 for
the delivery but she was unsure if she could come up with the money. Not
that it matters, the hospital won't turn her away. (I wonder why they even
bother asking at this point.)

"How long has this been going on? What are the long-term affects?

Well, another subject of the article was born at Parkland in 1986 shortly
after her mother entered the US illegally - now she is having her own child
there as well (That's right, she's technically a US citizen)

These women receive free prenatal care including medication, nutrition,
birthing classes and child care classes. They also get freebies such as car
seats, bottles, diapers and formula.

Most of these things are available to American citizens as well but only
for low-income applicants and even then, the red tape involved is almost
insurmountable.

Because these women are illegal immigrants, they do not have to provide any
sort of legitimate identification - no proof of income. An American citizen
would have to provide a social security number which would reveal their
annual income - an illegal immigrant need only claim to be poor and the
hospital must take them at their word.

"My husband is a pilot for the United States Navy (yes, he fought in Iraq )
and while the health care is good, we Navy wives don't get any of these
perks! Car seats? Diapers? Not so much. So my question is this: Does our
public medical care system treat illegal immigrants better than American
citizens? Yes, it does!

As I mentioned, the care I have received is perfectly adequate but it's
bare bones, meat and potato medical care - not top of line.

Their (the illegals') medical care is free - simply because they are
illegal immigrants? Once again, there is no way to verify their income.

Parkland Hospital offers indigent care to Dallas County residents who earn
less than $40,000 per year. (They also have to prove that they did not
refuse health coverage at their current job. Yeah, the 'free' care is not
so easy for Americans.)

There are about 140 patients who received roughly $4 million dollars for
un-reimbursed medical care. As it turns out, they did not qualify for free
treatment because they resided outside of Dallas County so the hospital is
going to sue them! Illegals get it all free! But US citizens who live
outside of Dallas County get sued! How stupid is this?

As if that isn't annoying enough, the illegal immigrant patients are
actually complaining about hospital staff not speaking Spanish. In this AP
story, the author speaks with a woman who is upset that she had to
translate comments from the hospital staff into Spanish for her husband.
The doctor was trying to explain the situation to the family and the mother
was forced to translate for her husband who only spoke Spanish. This was
apparently a great injustice to her.

In an attempt to create a Spanish-speaking staff, Parkland Hospital is now
providing incentives in the form of extra pay for applicants who speak
Spanish. Additionally, medical students at the University of Texas
Southwestern for which Parkland Hospital is the training facility will now
have a Spanish language requirement added to their already jammed-packed
curriculum. No other school in the country boasts such a ridiculous
multi-semester (multicultural) requirement.

( Sorry for the length, but this needs wide circulation - particularly to
our "employees" in Congress.)

*Remember that this is only ONE hospital is Dallas, Texas. There are many
more hospitals across our country that also have to deal with this.*

*SO TRUMP IS RIGHT WANTING TO FOCUS ON ILLEGAL IMMIGATION*

*REMEMBER THEY ARE NOT 'UNDOCUMENTED ' , THEY ARE ILLEGAL & MILKING AMERICA
DRY....*..

*PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY US CITIZEN AND LEGAL RESIDENT YOU KNOW.*

If you want to verify accuracy:
https://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/parkland.asp

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/illegal-immigrant-births-at-your-expense/ [/CENTER][/CENTER]
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Old 02-29-2020, 06:33 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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What makes you think Americans wouldn’t do grunt work if wages werent depressed by criminal illegals doing work for far less.
They won’t. Work ethics has gone out the door a long time ago when people caught on the company did not care a raztazz about you. They send you packing and your job overseas, to automation, to illegals and gave you .25 raises while cola went up $3.00
The agricultural jobs totally fail with out the pickers and only the housing or construction business could pick up a local crew, but at what price ?
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Old 02-29-2020, 06:36 AM
 
Location: SE Asia
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They won’t. Work ethics has gone out the door a long time ago when people caught on the company did not care a raztazz about you. They send you packing and your job overseas, to automation, to illegals and gave you .25 raises while cola went up $3.00
Complete BS. Legal citizens left trades like Drywall and roofing because illegals lowballed them out of work.

By the way those savings are not passed on to the consumer.
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