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“Militias” include bands of citizens who have inherent individual rights to own guns (including automatic weapons) in order to use in lawful ways and in order to throw off any unlawful, tyrannical infringements of their rights.
So, you see, the 2nd Amendment framework sets this right into place above further governmental edict. Like it or not.
Sheesh. I just can't fathom how something so simple just cant seem to sink in. "Well regulated" does NOT mean overseen by the government. It means properly armed, equipped and ready.
Thus the individual right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed so the people can properly be equipped to defend themselves and their families, their communities. And if needs be the nation itself.
Thus also the phrase in the preamble "provide for the common defense." What is so tough to understand here? Or is it just willful density?
I think you are a bit confused in the words,"common defense".
Common defense means defense of the nation, not personal defense.
You , and many others need to remember the constitution was written soon after a war we had fought for Independence from a country hell bent on keeping this country enslaved by British dominance.
The founding fathers wanted to make sure a "well regulated militia" stood ready to once again,defend the nation.
Nothing about personal defense as some have stated , quite wrongly.
Any one with half a brain knows that government rules all of us.
If you don't think so, take a look at laws, just in what ever state you live in, let alone the federal government.
I will give you just a few examples.
Marijuana use is illegal, federally
In California, plastic straws are illegal, as is smoking in many places in the state.
The use of plastic bags for grocery stores is also illegal.
These are trivial items, but I know there are more serious limits on citizen freedoms, dictated by the government, so it isn't "crap".
An armed and capable populace is, exactly, a militia.
A militia is a select group of people gathered to protect the country, not the entire population being the militia, and the "well regulated militia" mentioned in teh 2nd is what the founders were talking about when the wrote the 2nd.
How in the hell could the entire population be a militia?
How, and who would make the entire population a "well regulated militia"?
How would they become regulated?
Do you know what a "well regulated militia" is?
A militia is a select group of people gathered to protect the country, not the entire population being the militia, and the "well regulated militia" mentioned in teh 2nd is what the founders were talking about when the wrote the 2nd.
How in the hell could the entire population be a militia?
How, and who would make the entire population a "well regulated militia"?
How would they become regulated?
Do you know what a "well regulated militia" is?
“I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.” – George Mason, at the Virginia Ratifying Convention June 4, 1788
“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788
Uh, that would be: game, set, and match.
In the end it comes down to this, when you are at the gym and an illegal alien breaks into your home and announces his intention to rape your wife and sodomize your six year old daughter do you want your wife to be able to refute his assertion?
As they say, God did not create all men equal, but Smith and Wesson made them that way.
“I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers.” – George Mason, at the Virginia Ratifying Convention June 4, 1788
“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… “To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them.” Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788
Uh, that would be: game, set, and match.
In the end it comes down to this, when you are at the gym and an illegal alien breaks into your home and announces his intention to rape your wife and sodomize your six year old daughter do you want your wife to be able to refute his assertion?
As they say, God did not create all men equal, but Smith and Wesson made them that way.
I haven’t heard a good definition of militia since the 1790’s. So today the militia takes the place of standing army of a few million. So are the Bundy’s and the other right wing right supremacist groups part of the new militia, who exactly leads them, who decides to attack.
I have to disagree with your interpretation.
The amendment states the word "militia",not a"capable populace".
The founding fathers were only concerned with a well regulated militia being armed, not the populace.
I cannot remember the year, (Im sure another poster on here knows), it was declared that every adult person from the age of 18-45 was actually the nations 'militia'.
I haven’t heard a good definition of militia since the 1790’s. So today the militia takes the place of standing army of a few million. So are the Bundy’s and the other right wing right supremacist groups part of the new militia, who exactly leads them, who decides to attack.
Well, if they were fighting tyranny...than yes, they would be patriots by definition!
Ive mentioned this a few times in the past and its relevant here...Real 'Patriotism' in the US today would look a lot like 'domestic terrorism' on the surface.
This is precisely how our tyrannical govt dupes people into taking their side...they make the patriots out to be terrorists and criminals, its clever and effective! If England had done this in response to the American Revolution...We would probably have a king today and be speaking the Queens english. LOL
People have Rights. Citizens obtain privilege from those they consent to be governed by. The only constitutional mention for a Citizen, is voting and holding office. and neither of those are a right.
"CITIZEN - ... Citizens are members of a political community who, in their associative capacity, have established or submitted themselves to the dominion of government for the promotion of the general welfare and the protection of their individual as well as collective rights. "
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed. p.244
"... the term 'citizen,' in the United States, is analogous to the term "subject" in the common law; the change of phrase has resulted from the change in government. ... he who before was a "subject of the King" is now a citizen of the State."
- - - State v. Manuel, 20 N.C. 144 (1838)
SUBJECT - One that owes allegiance to a sovereign and is governed by his laws.
...Men in free governments are subjects as well as citizens; as citizens they enjoy rights and franchises; as subjects they are bound to obey the laws. The term is little used, in this sense, in countries enjoying a republican form of government.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Edition, p. 1425
If not well regulated, the criminals have the right to bear arms.
Criminals are hung by the neck.
Well, at least they use to be.
Then how would George Washington & Paul Revere get their weapons? they were certainly criminals to the King(our government at the time) So, yes. Criminal also have every right to have arms.
The only way you can limit anyone's RIGHTS is to kill them.
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I just can't fathom how something so simple just cant seem to sink in. "Well regulated" does NOT mean overseen by the government. It means properly armed, equipped and ready. 
