Time to Reopen America (paycheck, South Dakota, Republicans, unemployment)
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There is a HUGELY big flaw in people's arguments about why we cannot or should not open up the economy again. The economy was NOT shut down to prevent people from getting the virus. It was shut down to prevent too many people getting it at ONE TIME and thus overwhelming the healthcare system. That's it. Once we know that the amount of people getting the virus and needing medical attention will not overwhelm the healthcare system, then we can open up again (Yes, bit by bit and area by area, as is planned). People keep making the mistake of thinking we are shut down and need to stay shut down simply because people may get sick or die. If that was the case, we would be shutting down off and on for all kinds of issues. It is simply because of not wanting to overwhelm the healthcare system. All this back and forth arguing over how many people will die is missing the point completely.
You may now carry on with your arguing. Thank you for your time.
Work for disantis ? It’s about contamination of others at warp speed. All you said applies- but now say we have 1 million masks and 5 mil ventilators - still too many can die. A young nurse went to work - was tired - felt bad but no fever etc in the morning never woke up - PPE and all . The PPE can help prevent- but this death angel is sneaky.
Work for disantis ? It’s about contamination of others at warp speed. All you said applies- but now say we have 1 million masks and 5 mil ventilators - still too many can die. A young nurse went to work - was tired - felt bad but no fever etc in the morning never woke up - PPE and all . The PPE can help prevent- but this death angel is sneaky.
Another key point.
Before a full reopening can happen, we have to catch up on production of enough PPE, not just for health workers, but the general population also.
Work for disantis ? It’s about contamination of others at warp speed. All you said applies- but now sat we gave 1 million masks and ventilators - still too many can die. A young nurse went to work - was tired - felt bad but no fever etc in the morning never woke up - PPE and all .
In reality, we NEED to contaminate others. We just need to do it at a speed where the healthcare system can keep up. You do realize this, don't you? Just set aside you TDS for a little bit and simply look at how viruses work. Forget the politics and focus on the virus and the economy. We need to get through the virus and the way we do that is by getting the virus and/or getting a vaccine. Vaccines are not 100% perfect and then there will always be mutations, just like the flu. Like it or not, we are going to have to start working again and Covid WILL be out there and people WILL be getting it. I know I can count on you to politicize it all day long, but the facts are the facts when it comes to a virus and while we can hide, we can't do it forever.
In reality, we NEED to contaminate others. We just need to do it at a speed where the healthcare system can keep up. You do realize this, don't you? Just set aside you TDS for a little bit and simply look at how viruses work. Forget the politics and focus on the virus and the economy. We need to get through the virus and the way we do that is by getting the virus and/or getting a vaccine. Vaccines are not 100% perfect and then there will always be mutations, just like the flu. Like it or not, we are going to have to start working again and Covid WILL be out there and people WILL be getting it. I know I can count on you to politicize it all day long, but the facts are the facts when it comes to a virus and while we can hide, we can't do it forever.
I would disagree with the "need" to contaminate others.
The argument against that is - the more you allow the virus to spread - the greater chance it has to mutate and therefore making a vaccine/cure becomes more difficult.
People around here are having trouble finding masks. They've been sold out for years. Some were making masks, but now the stores are sold out of fabric and elastic. The facebook groups have been shutting down people trying to sell handmade masks. They won't let the 'nonessential' stores that sell only fabric and such to reopen so people can buy what they need. Why can't people be allowed to "social distance" in a so-called "nonessential" store?
Before a full reopening can happen, we have to catch up on production of enough PPE, not just for health workers, but the general population also.
You said the most important key word there. "FULL" reopening. No one, not even the Bad Orange Man, is saying we go from 0 to full opening. So yes, it needs and will be done area by area and adjusted as need be. There will be false starts and the need to pause or pull back. I am sure some people will politicize that all day long, but any reasonable person knows what we must do.
While I may disagree with you, I appreciate that you actually put thought into your response. Bravo to you! I wish more people could discuss things like this, rather than the endless yelling back and forth like kids. BTW - I don't disagree with it all. I think you touch on some reality there.
Just curious to exactly what you disagree with? I'd like your thoughts as well.
I would disagree with the "need" to contaminate others.
The argument against that is - the more you allow the virus to spread - the greater chance it has to mutate and therefore making a vaccine/cure becomes more difficult.
Many health professionals will disagree with you. It is not about avoiding the virus altogether. It is about controlling how FAST it spreads.
Many health professionals will disagree with you. It is not about avoiding the virus altogether. It is about controlling how FAST it spreads.
Right that wasn't what I meant. It's definitely to reduce how fast it spreads, not to zero out spread. If you open the economy - even in sections, guaranteed it'll spread faster than if you keep it locked down.
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