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trump is leading the nation right now. But he cant do it alone, and he got the governors involved to the level they are now. The governor have to run their own states, and the president needs to back them up, and trump has done that. things happen best at the state level not the federal level and trump knows this as well as everyone else does.
lol.
Trump says he's the boss now.
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For the purpose of creating conflict and confusion, some in the Fake News Media are saying that it is the Governors decision to open up the states, not that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government. Let it be fully understood that this is incorrect....
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Maybe it has something to do with the SARS Cov scare in 2003 under his administration? It was on our soil and hit Toronto pretty hard. Singapore learned from that encounter and was way better prepared to handle Covid than we were today.
Under the Obama administration the pandemic office was created after the Ebola epidemic. We lost a lot of top notch global health experts after it was disbanded in 2018. One was Timothy Ziemer who served under Obama and Bush.
Obama created the pandemic office in 2016 after he received criticism for the way he handled the Ebola epidemic in 2014-2015 when it reached our soil and infected a nurse in 2014. Hence Ron Klain became the Ebola Czar. After the outbreak, which pales in comparison to what we are dealing with today, Klain suggested a permanent pandemic office to coordinate with the National Security Council and across the government for a pandemic preparedness. Good idea?
Trump disbanding the pandemic office with nothing in place to coordinate a rapid response, combined with firing boots on the ground in China in the CDC which were eyes and ears and the epidemiologists we lost, ignoring the Intel and choosing to lie about the dangers? It was all a perfect storm to ignite a pandemic with this insidious highly contagious virus.
George Bush? A very stable genius in comparison.
No. he did not disband it.
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The facts were revealed by Tim Morrison, who is now a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and was the former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council (NSC).
Tim Morrison posted his correction of the fake news to the Washington Post on Monday.
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Leaders need to "confront dangers before they appear" .. where was Dubya on 9/11?
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i get that you hate trump with a passion, in fact it BLINDS YOU to reality. lets look back to 2009 shall we? lets talk the flu epidemic that hit this country that we were not prepared for. obamas response was at best sluggish when compared to trumps response to the covid-19 response pandemic. trump pushed through the efforts to get medications out there to fight the virus, especially considering that there were NO MEDICATIONS APPROVED for the virus. and lets look at the medias, and the democrats, response to trumps efforts shall we?
regarding trumps travel ban, that they now concede was a good idea, was at first considered xenophobic, racist, unnecessary, etc. when trump pushed medications that had proved effective and SAFE when used against SARS and MERS, both covid viruses, and medications that have been around since 1955 with a PROVEN safety record, trump was considered to be pushing bad medications that were dangerous and unproven, and ineffective. well guess what people, like it or not TRUMP WAS RIGHT AGAIN!!!
when trump ordered the hospital ships to new york and california, the media said it would take weeks if not months for them to get into place, and that trumps timeline was pure fantasy. well the ships were in position a week AHEAD of schedule. remember we are talking about sending in the navy whose motto in situations like that is "the difficult we do immediately, the impossible takes only a little longer" GO NAVY!!
so bleat on about hating trump all you want, but at least look at the reality of the situation and the reality of trumps response to that situation, including the effectiveness of that response, and be truthful. dont let your hate of the man blind you.
Well said.
Dems have proven that if they had been in charge we would be in far worse shape right now.
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IMO, he was warning.
The scientific community who has interest in such matters has been telling us since the 80s.
A writer, trained in immunology, told us what the scientist thought in her 25 yo book, 'The Coming Plague'. She was not the only one.
We were just too busy shopping and watching Dancing with the Stars.
The Bush administration left their research and to do list with the Obama administration, who left it with the Trump transition team. The Trump team did not see the need, so they tossed it and the people who work the to do list.
If they had tossed it then they would not have run the Crimson Contagion training simulation last year.
GWB was clearly a better POTUS than the one that preceded him and the one that followed him. That's a given, but that is beside the point.
I don't think that is a given at all. If you believe in small government and personal liberty, then unfortunately Bush is one of the worst presidents in American history. In fact, the only good thing we got from the Bush years was the Tea Party movement (2007) and even that came too late.
I'm also surprised how many of our so-called "conservative" City-Data posters have suddenly fallen in love with Bush too.
That makes no sense. Conservatives always liked him.
I never liked him because he was part of the political elites, no different than the Dims. Let's not forget that Bill Clinton called him his 'brother from another mother.' I didn't vote for either of them.
That makes no sense. Conservatives always liked him.
Anyone who likes Bush isn't really a conservative.
True conservatives don't support things like expanding government, overseas nation building, and reducing civil liberties. Why do you think we had the Tea Party movement in the first place?
trump IS leading the nation right now. but he cant do it alone, and he got the governors involved to the level they are now. the governor have to run their own states, and the president needs to back them up, and trump has done that.
You seem to be confused about the timelines. State governors were closing schools and non-essential businesses while Trump was still blathering about the virus being no big deal.
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the best managers delegate responsibility, and it doesnt matter whether they are in private business or in government. and trump is delegating responsibility to those that are supposed to handle it, and he is keeping us updated along the way.
He can't have it both ways. He says he wants to delegate, but also wants credit for the decisions made by the people he delegates to. That's not how it works. Nevermind that [most] state governors are not listening to him anyway, but instead are doing what they think is best for their residents.
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so please stop the hate, and start the thinking.
Pot, kettle.
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Of course they will only apply it to Trump, or whomever their Opposition is in the White house, after all they were fine with a Leftist peace prize winner destroying soverign countries like Libya and Syria, having the IRS investigate Democrat opponents, and never saying a word about it. Like Hugo Chavez in Venezuela, they view their side beyond reproach.
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