Does anyone thing there is someone else going on?

[timfountain]

Originally Posted by skeddy

sounds like North Korea is the place for you comrade. Are you sending that $1200 back to those capitalist pigs?

Who said I even got a check? Some of us don't need to rely on the gumbermint.

[JAMS14]

Originally Posted by augiedogie

Imho, this madness is from God. He has had enough if the immorality and evil and idolatry in the western countries and is bring them the downfall they deserve.

Maybe it is a test from God to see if we humans are able to come together and work together as a species to confront a dangerous, life-altering global event. To see if we are able to put our own needs aside and act for the benefit of our neighbors and fellow human beings instead of selfishly demanding instant gratification for our own needs and everyone else be damned.

And if so, then America is failing that test miserably. The fools with guns and Confederate flags blocking hospital entrances so medical staff can't get through to treat the critically ill is the proof we as a country have given up on the words of Christ to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. It's been replaced by, "I want to go to the beach!" "I want to go to a restaurant!" "I want a haircut!"

I, I, I, Me, Me, Me!

Mind you, not everyone in this country feels this way. Just the usual loud mouths totin' their guns and putting their ignorance on full display. But they have the ear of the administration, and the sane do not. That's the real danger in what we are experiencing right now.

[skeddy]

Originally Posted by beach43ofus

That is because they are in their last year of employment, and pensions are calulated using the last years earnings, so they are injecting their pension payouts with steroids.

Meanwhile, the homeowners who are paying high property taxes get hosed...until they bail out, & flee. In small #'s they go unnoticed, but then....

That used to be done, not so much anymore.

[Ruth4Truth]

Originally Posted by Emma21

It should say something else going on not someone else.

The hospitals are supposed to be overwhelmed yet my cousin was a a protest where she meet several dr’s and nurses who were furloughed. Why would they be furloughed if hospitals are overwhelmed? More and more places making masks mandatory. Neighbors turning in others for being outside (even though you are allowed to). I’ve noticed cops driving around my neighborhood and parked in the park areas. We are in a middle to upper class neighborhood. Most police presence I’ve noticed. It almost feels like we are being turned into a totalitarian society. Interesting how many states with republicans governors are starting to open up their states but democrat run states aren’t or haven’t announced yet. Do you think things will ever go back to normal?

Where do you live? There's none of that going on, where I live. Except that many hospital ICU wards are empty, anticipating a surge of patients. Everyone's out taking strolls, observing social distancing. No cops at or near parks. No noticeable police presence increase anywhere. No totalitarian state, lol. Are you in SoCal? They had to send police out to parks because of all the people ignoring the social distancing/shelter-at-home recommendations, and gathering in groups in parks and on beaches.

[Ellis Bell]

Originally Posted by Emma21

It should say something else going on not someone else.

The hospitals are supposed to be overwhelmed yet my cousin was a a protest where she meet several dr’s and nurses who were furloughed. Why would they be furloughed if hospitals are overwhelmed? More and more places making masks mandatory. Neighbors turning in others for being outside (even though you are allowed to). I’ve noticed cops driving around my neighborhood and parked in the park areas. We are in a middle to upper class neighborhood. Most police presence I’ve noticed. It almost feels like we are being turned into a totalitarian society. Interesting how many states with republicans governors are starting to open up their states but democrat run states aren’t or haven’t announced yet. Do you think things will ever go back to normal?

Originally Posted by Ruth4Truth

Where do you live? There's none of that going on, where I live. Except that many hospital ICU wards are empty, anticipating a surge of patients. Everyone's out taking strolls, observing social distancing. No cops at or near parks. No noticeable police presence increase anywhere. No totalitarian state, lol. Are you in SoCal? They had to send police out to parks because of all the people ignoring the social distancing/shelter-at-home recommendations, and gathering in groups in parks and on beaches.

NYPD’s Aggressive Policing Risks Spreading the Coronavirus

"In a criminal complaint, police claim an informant observed a group of about 25 people “hanging out” in the Bedford-Stuyvesant neighborhood last Friday night and that the defendants “refused to leave the location and disperse” despite the informant repeatedly asking them to do so."


Former police officer arrested in park for throwing ball with daughter due to coronavirus social distancing rules
"The police department has apologized for the arrest, calling it an "overreach.""


No good deed goes unpunished ...


Man who narrated an expletive-filled video depicting people not social distancing arrested


If people are going to tattle on each other, make sure you're not doing the thing you're tattling on others for doing ...

[banjomike]

Originally Posted by whogo

Social distancing.

Yup.

If someone is living where the virus hasn't hit as hard as it has somewhere else, its because social distancing- a new term for quarantining- has worked.

So far.

Don't expect the virus to just go away. It won't. It has found a wonderful food source and its new, young, and hungry.

There are some places where it hasn't hit as hard as others. Those that were hit hard will be the best protected and prepared when the second wave hits. The waves will not hit everyone at once, nor will they hit everyone equally.

Expect a second wave. There will be some places that are still suffering from the first wave when it comes, while other places will be hit harder the second time than the first, and still other places where the second wave will be negligible.

Just don't expect we will return to what was once normal. Until we find something that protects us all, the only thing humanity can do is adapt to living with a danger that is new to us all equally, all around the world.

[Natural510]

I’m a nurse. A large portion of health care is cosmetic, elective surgeries etc. Those are the people being furloughed. Due to social distancing, many if not most patients are canceling routine doctors appointments, so office workers are being furloughed also. Inpatient hospitals are at least general capacity and in many areas there has been an influx due to COVID.
You also can’t compare a situation in an isolated town to a big city. The hardest hit places are in dense, urban areas and cities which are airport hubs. You can’t compare NY, Detroit and Atlanta to Topeka and Bismarck.

[crone]

Originally Posted by veuvegirl

Hospitals can’t provide any elective procedures because of the lack of PPE. This is how they make their money. Some hospitals are down 90% of their revenue. They have to furlough staff in order to keep afloat to help the sick.

We shouldn’t be opening up yet. We are in front of the curve right now. We need to keep it this way in order to thrive both economically and in public health.

My morning paper informs me some hospital employees are including Drs. are getting paycuts.

[Mircea]

Originally Posted by Emma21

It should say something else going on not someone else.

The hospitals are supposed to be overwhelmed yet my cousin was a a protest where she meet several dr’s and nurses who were furloughed. Why would they be furloughed if hospitals are overwhelmed?

Let's start simple, shall we?

Restrictions bar unnecessary contact. Elective surgeries are unnecessary contact. Healthcare workers in PPE are being afflicted with COVID-19. Logic dictates that patients not in PPE in a hospital for an elective procedure would be at higher risk for COVID-19, right?

Hospitals have a certain number of beds. Not all hospitals have the same number of beds. As part of the number of beds, a certain number of beds are set aside for ICU. ICU beds are equipped with special medical equipment that normal beds don't have. It's a money thing.

Once all beds are filled with COVID-19 patients, where do you put the other patients?

That ties in with the restrictions.

All poodles are dogs, but not all dogs are poodles.

If you understand that, then all surgeons are doctors, but not all doctors are surgeons (nor could they ever be surgeons, since surgery is a skill-set separate and apart from the doctor skill-set).

Some doctors specialize. Can you say that word, "specialize?" Sure, I knew you could. Today's episode of Sesame Street has been sponsored by the numbers "3" and "6" and the word "specialize."

Some doctors are ophthalmologists. They specialize. They specialize in playing with people's eyes and not playing with people's lungs.

Some doctors are orthopedic surgeons. The specialize in playing with people's bones and not playing with people's lungs,

Some doctors are oncologists. They specialize in playing with cancer and not playing with people who have a virus infecting their lungs.

Other doctors are OB-GYNs. They specialize in taking out babies, not playing with people's lungs.

Are you getting all this?

Those doctors are not cardio-pulmonary specialists, and because they're not cardio-pulmonary specialists, they may actually harm a patient whose lungs are failing because they don't know what they're doing.

If you had a brain tumor, would you go to a podiatrist or a chiropractor or an orthopedic surgeon?

No, you wouldn't. See how that works?

There are other rooms, too. They're called "operating rooms." You want the operating rooms free and available, in the event you need to perform emergency surgery on a COVID-19 patient.

Some doctors specialize in anesthesiology. Since there are no surgeries being performed except for absolute emergencies, or the number of surgeries is very limited, there isn't a need for their talents right now.

Since there's nothing for them to do, and nothing for many other doctors to do, since they cannot perform surgery or see patients, and they have no clue how to treat COVID-19 patients, they have been furloughed.

That goes back to the car-crash thing.

Some people think hospitals are overwhelmed with car-crash victims on a daily basis.

If you were in a car-crash and sent to a hospital overwhelmed with car-crash victims, do you really want a dermatologist working on you?

Seriously, if you were eviscerated and your guts are hanging out, I don't think you really want an endocrinologist or ophthalmologist or an OB-GYN standing there wondering what in the hell he should do.

Anyway, there's no work for those people, which is why they're furloughed.

[eureka1]

Paranoid much?