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Old 04-29-2020, 09:59 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Note which Governors and States just love power and control.

Then note which states believe in freedom granted by the Constitution.

It's good to see people use their own common sense and get pizzed off.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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This is the biggest annoyance to me. How they are counting the deaths. You can trip down the stairs and die, but if you have COVID in you, that's a COVID death?

They are basing everything off this 50-60K death toll number, yet it's highly questionable at best.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:03 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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As long as the science is solid, yes. I do believe it.
There is no way to determine that. The models are made up tools to get what they want. That's all. You should know that by now.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I believe scientists way more than I believe political hacks or the tinfoil hat protestors.



Scientists are neither infallible nor incapable of letting their own bias or preconceived notions affect their opinions.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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This is the biggest annoyance to me. How they are counting the deaths. You can trip down the stairs and die, but if you have COVID in you, that's a COVID death?

They are basing everything off this 50-60K death toll number, yet it's highly questionable at best.



There was a meme going around that had a CNN headline:

"Man eaten by shark dies of Covid-19!!"

Funny, but it seems plausible the way they write the statistics.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:20 AM
 
Location: STL area
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I think that most of what we get is the best current knowledge. This is new and it changes. That is how science works. When something is determined to be incorrect, it changes.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:22 AM
 
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I only believe what people with no background in infectious disease/ don’t work on front lines post on this forum.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I think that most of what we get is the best current knowledge. This is new and it changes. That is how science works. When something is determined to be incorrect, it changes.


What have they changed after determining it to be
incorrect?


Don't wear a mask......?

Do wear a mask........?
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:24 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Here is the problem with scientific data, even if it's accurate. Most lay people have no idea what to do with that information. For example, we've all read about how long coronavirus can survive on various surfaces. What does that tell you about getting Covid 19 from these surfaces? Nothing! That wasn't part of those studies.

Anyway, the problem is the lay people, not the scientific data just to be clear.
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Old 04-29-2020, 10:28 AM
 
Location: Western PA
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I only believe what Jared and Ivanka tell me. Honestly, I sleep much better at night knowing those two are at the helm. The depth of their scientific and medical knowledge is incalculable.
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