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Are you this obtusely dense? EVERYTHING right now is a trial.
That's what happens with novel viruses. You're pretending like there's one way to treat this and we have a cure when there isn't. CDC just came out with 3 more symptoms of the virus literally this week.
You just stated they got it from the government, the treatment. That is false, the link you provided stated it is in clinical trials, and it is not an approved treatment for the virus. None of what you just posted refutes this.
The medical spa was falsely peddling this as treatment, which it is not.
I did not at one time state there was only one way to treat this and we have a cure, please show me where I said this.
You however, seem to not understand the difference between approvals and clinical trials, and not understand what false advertising is.
It's not a migratory bird like the African Swallow.
It doesn't fly around the US infecting people.
Each carrier of COVID-19 who was allowed by Political Correctness to enter the US and infect other people started a chain.
Perhaps a tree is a better analogy.
The disease carrier is the trunk of the tree and the branches of the tree are where the disease spread when the disease carrier came into contact with other people, and those people spread it to others who spread it to others continuum ad nauseum.
The leaves on the tree represents where the chain stopped, because that person was not in contact with other people to spread it to them at the time they were carrying the disease.
The Göbbels worshipers scream, "South Dakota!"
I live in a county that has more freaking people than the entire State.
There's a whole 833,000 people in South Dakota.
How many of them travel overseas on a weekly or monthly basis?
I would venture to guess exactly Zero.
More likely, someone in South Dakota or maybe a whole two people in South Dakota traveled to Seattle or New York City on business and picked up the virus there and brought it back.
See, in order to be infected, you have to be part of the chain, meaning you have to be connected in some way to the tree trunk -- the disease carrier.
No connection, no infection.
Now, let's address your other error, which is how your immune system works.
A quarter is $0.25 or 25 pennies.
When you are exposed to any bacteria or any virus, you and every American does not get $0.25 worth of bacteria or virus.
Some people only get $0.01 worth of virus or bacteria, while other people get $10,000 worth of virus or bacteria.
Yes, I'm sure Liberals will complain bitterly about Virus Inequality and how we have to level the playing field to ensure everyone gets an equal amount of virus or bacteria all the time.
I mention that because it has a direct bearing on how your body responds.
If you only get 12 COVID-19 virus in your lungs, your immune system -- which is Politically Incorrect because it's xenophobic and doesn't like foreign things -- will move to suppress it.
But not immediately. Virus are great soldiers, because they're most excellent at escaping, evading and camouflaging. They will put on a Joe Biden mask and tell your lungs cells, "Hey, replicate me!"
It will be some time before their numbers are large enough to where they can't hide and then you will attack them. You will probably win the battle, and the evidence of that battle is antibodies.
But, some people aren't so lucky. Instead of a squad of COVID-19 virus, they get a whole airborne infantry division of COVID-19 virus parachute into their lungs and if you can't beat them off, you become symptomatic.
If they call in air support, you'll end up in hospital and if they go nuclear, you'll end up dead.
You're probably exposed to 229E, on of the of the five virus and one of the four corona virus that cause the common cold, 6-12 times every year. Maybe even more frequently, but you probably win those battles because you're not overwhelmed with large numbers of 229E. When you are overwhelmed, that's when you get cold.
So, asymptomatic carriers is nothing unusual.
Someone sneezes and another person walks through their space 2 second later and picks up 10,000 COVID-19 virus and then you walk through the same space 30 seconds later and the virus has sufficiently dispersed in the air so that you only get a dozen COVID-19 virus.
You probably won't become symptomatic. The other person may or may not become symptomatic depending on how well their immune system fights it off, but both of you are now carriers for the next 3-14 days.
Very good post-... You can put it in 3rd grade ABC's easy read-and they still wont accept it.
I am however, looking more as to who can be infected and who wont, besides the age and comorbidity issues already there. I have my issues at 67-but catching a COLD or the yearly FLU so far just doesn't apply. Had the flu once, maybe 2x that I can remember. Some say blood types matter? I just wonder.
You just stated they got it from the government, the treatment. That is false, the link you provided stated it is in clinical trials, and it is not an approved treatment for the virus. None of what you just posted refutes this.
The medical spa was falsely peddling this as treatment, which it is not.
I did not at one time state there was only one way to treat this and we have a cure, please show me where I said this.
You however, seem to not understand the difference between approvals and clinical trials, and not understand what false advertising is.
It's a clinical trial that the government published on one of their sites. What is hard to understand about that?
Nowhere did i ever say it was approved for anything. I simply posted the link to the article. Then you made some insane comments that had nothing to do with what I posted.
Please go back to school and learn what reading comprehension is. That or you were dropped on your head as a child. Because you seem to have an inability to read something in your face.
I try to keep an open mind when I can. There are conflicting studies out there about just how many people have been found to have antibodies. My life hasn't been affected much as I'm fairly introverted. There are some things I see as a positive.. less needless consumption, lower carbon footprint... it's possible this virus won't be nearly as deadly as they suggest which would of course be a good thing. We need more random antibody testing done.
It's a clinical trial that the government published on one of their sites. What is hard to understand about that?
Nowhere did i ever say it was approved for anything. I simply posted the link to the article. Then you made some insane comments that had nothing to do with what I posted.
Please go back to school and learn what reading comprehension is. That or you were dropped on your head as a child. Because you seem to have an inability to read something in your face.
No, you made a comment about now they are busting clinics for doing their own treatment, and wondering why there is only one avenue, a vaccine, allowed. I read the story you linked and the story stated they were promoting vitamin C as a treatment for the virus, which it is not, so they were falsely peddling this.
You then came and said they got that from "the government as a treatment", then linked a site to back your claim. However, the site you linked clearly states it was in clinical trials, thus not an approved treatment.
Now you are trying to back peddling your absurd claim, instead of just admitting you were wrong, and indeed the medical spa was busted for not what you claimed, but for misleading consumers.
Here is the entire thread chain;
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Originally Posted by sonnymarkjiz
The biggest issue I'm having with all of this is how their only treatments to this seems to be ventilators, and a vaccine. If anyone else experiments with any other treatment, it's shunned and banned. I've never seen anything like this before. It's a novel virus, meaning, it's new. So there's not much data on it yet.
I mean, the FBI raided a doctor for treating patients with Vitamin C. Like WTF?
But yet, they keep pushing the only solution is a vaccine...even though a vaccine has never been successful for a coronavirus before.
Quote:
Originally Posted by k350
So, in your referenced story, exactly what experiment were they conducting? it is a medical spa, not a medical research hospital/institute. They were falsely advertising Vitamin C can cure, yet there are no facts to back this up, essentially, they were peddling snake oil.
And perhaps it cannot fly around the neighbourhood but it can "hang" and move with air currents for a couple of hours. Someone without a masking, walking in front of you coughs, and you while observing distancing walks through the aerosols he's left behind - tough nooogies; you got it now.
It's not a migratory bird like the African Swallow.
It doesn't fly around the US infecting people.
Each carrier of COVID-19 who was allowed by Political Correctness to enter the US and infect other people started a chain.
Perhaps a tree is a better analogy.
The disease carrier is the trunk of the tree and the branches of the tree are where the disease spread when the disease carrier came into contact with other people, and those people spread it to others who spread it to others continuum ad nauseum.
The leaves on the tree represents where the chain stopped, because that person was not in contact with other people to spread it to them at the time they were carrying the disease.
The Göbbels worshipers scream, "South Dakota!"
I live in a county that has more freaking people than the entire State.
There's a whole 833,000 people in South Dakota.
How many of them travel overseas on a weekly or monthly basis?
I would venture to guess exactly Zero.
More likely, someone in South Dakota or maybe a whole two people in South Dakota traveled to Seattle or New York City on business and picked up the virus there and brought it back.
See, in order to be infected, you have to be part of the chain, meaning you have to be connected in some way to the tree trunk -- the disease carrier.
No connection, no infection.
Now, let's address your other error, which is how your immune system works.
A quarter is $0.25 or 25 pennies.
When you are exposed to any bacteria or any virus, you and every American does not get $0.25 worth of bacteria or virus.
Some people only get $0.01 worth of virus or bacteria, while other people get $10,000 worth of virus or bacteria.
Yes, I'm sure Liberals will complain bitterly about Virus Inequality and how we have to level the playing field to ensure everyone gets an equal amount of virus or bacteria all the time.
I mention that because it has a direct bearing on how your body responds.
If you only get 12 COVID-19 virus in your lungs, your immune system -- which is Politically Incorrect because it's xenophobic and doesn't like foreign things -- will move to suppress it.
But not immediately. Virus are great soldiers, because they're most excellent at escaping, evading and camouflaging. They will put on a Joe Biden mask and tell your lungs cells, "Hey, replicate me!"
It will be some time before their numbers are large enough to where they can't hide and then you will attack them. You will probably win the battle, and the evidence of that battle is antibodies.
But, some people aren't so lucky. Instead of a squad of COVID-19 virus, they get a whole airborne infantry division of COVID-19 virus parachute into their lungs and if you can't beat them off, you become symptomatic.
If they call in air support, you'll end up in hospital and if they go nuclear, you'll end up dead.
You're probably exposed to 229E, on of the of the five virus and one of the four corona virus that cause the common cold, 6-12 times every year. Maybe even more frequently, but you probably win those battles because you're not overwhelmed with large numbers of 229E. When you are overwhelmed, that's when you get cold.
So, asymptomatic carriers is nothing unusual.
Someone sneezes and another person walks through their space 2 second later and picks up 10,000 COVID-19 virus and then you walk through the same space 30 seconds later and the virus has sufficiently dispersed in the air so that you only get a dozen COVID-19 virus.
You probably won't become symptomatic. The other person may or may not become symptomatic depending on how well their immune system fights it off, but both of you are now carriers for the next 3-14 days.
Most of that makes perfect sense.
However......
That's not how its being portrayed in the information that's given out.
So you believe everything that you're told about Covid-19?
I think this is a brand new virus, not even a year old. As such, not a lot is yet known.
You couple that with today's news media as well as social media, and you have have all the requirements for information overload and hysteria.
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