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Old 05-01-2020, 12:23 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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I don't protest the government. It has no right to exist. I refuse to ask it for permission to have input on who to associate with, where to go, and what property I can attain.

I wonder if any of the protesters were carrying weaponry made "illegal" under the Orange Menace or St. Ronnie?

The irony would be delicious.
Do you pay taxes to the state you live in?
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:24 PM
 
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History will not remember "president" Trump or the GOP kindly at all - they will be a cautionary tale for future generations about how ignorance and the denying of science can destroy a nation and kill people Trump really is the most incompetent President this nation has ever had known. TRUMP.. UNSTABLE NON-GENIUS NARCISSIST KNOWN LIAR! ... "COME NOVEMBER AMERICANS WILL REMEMBER!" Your president wants all the authority, none of the responsibility. Trump Death count keeps going up daily!
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Do you pay taxes to the state you live in?
Of course.

At gunpoint. Just like you.

Or are you one of those folks who think it's voluntary?
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:40 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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Of course.

At gunpoint. Just like you.

Or are you one of those folks who think it's voluntary?
Nope. but I chose a state and area that it is the least obtrusive.

I figured a guy like you so active on the forum and the opinions you have would be also be active here:


https://www.city-data.com/forum/self...-preparedness/


And maybe even live in a place like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ilg...ture=emb_title


Amirite?
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Old 05-01-2020, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Nope. but I chose a state and area that it is the least obtrusive.

I figured a guy like you so active on the forum and the opinions you have would be also be active here:


https://www.city-data.com/forum/self...-preparedness/


And maybe even live in a place like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ilg...ture=emb_title


Amirite?
The subjective level of socialism implemented on you isn't the immoral act. The actual implementation of any socialism is the immoral act.

Slaves picked cotton to keep people warm, remember?

The subjective level of removing socialist edicts on one's personal life doesn't have a bearing on that person's convictions.

On the contrary -

I have off-grid anarchist friends in Vermont. Close to living like the folks you have above. They still must pay property taxes or else it's the cage/death.

Are they "more anarchist" then me? I don't think so. They aren't initiating contact with Sammy or one of his subsidiaries. I don't either. Sammy Inc. comes looking for me...or more appropriately...my wallet.

The principles remain the same no matter the situation or the person. It's not up to victims to flee from their aggressors. It's up to the aggressors to stop victimizing people.

Girls in short skirts don't ask for rape and all.
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Old 05-01-2020, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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The subjective level of socialism implemented on you isn't the immoral act. The actual implementation of any socialism is the immoral act.


I have off-grid anarchist friends in Vermont. Close to living like the folks you have above. They still must pay property taxes or else it's the cage/death.

Are they "more anarchist" then me? I don't think so. They aren't initiating contact with Sammy or one of his subsidiaries. I don't either. Sammy Inc. comes looking for me...or more appropriately...my wallet.

The principles remain the same no matter the situation or the person. It's not up to victims to flee from their aggressors. It's up to the aggressors to stop victimizing people.
Lol, and yet Mr Purist has some excuses.

Sure, blame the aggressor and claim victimhood while you continue to stand in one spot in high taxed, heavily regulated, uber progressive Kalifornia and be anal raped every year to the most extent possible. You can complain about it as you do, or at least choose to move somewhere else where they at minimum they kiss you first, after buying you dinner.

The old analogy about the girls skirt just isn't working here. You are holding your skirt up on purpose, and loudly yelling "Don't you dare rape me! And don't bring lube when you aren't raping me"

Lol

At least be honest and admit you are willing to be raped because you like the beach and the weather.
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Old 05-01-2020, 01:43 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Lol, and yet Mr Purist has some excuses.

Sure, blame the aggressor and claim victimhood while you continue to stand in one spot in high taxed, heavily regulated, uber progressive Kalifornia and be anal raped every year to the most extent possible. You can complain about it as you do, or at least choose to move somewhere else where they at minimum they kiss you first, after buying you dinner.

The old analogy about the girls skirt just isn't working here. You are holding your skirt up on purpose, and loudly yelling "Don't you dare rape me! And don't bring lube when you aren't raping me"

Lol

At least be honest and admit you are willing to be raped because you like the beach and the weather.
And here you have it.

Consent can be given by peacefully residing in a specific geographic location.

And if you don't meet this poster's standards for socialist reduction brought on by the aggressor you are a socialist too.

I'm glad you condone rape though. I appreciate the candor from a Marxist. It's a rarity.
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Old 05-01-2020, 01:53 PM
 
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Do you know how one can tell this true?

Simple.

The protests didn't start immediately after the edicts infringing upon freedom of movement, freedom of association, and property rights were announced.

That's because they believe in the State (socialism) and gave it the benefit of the doubt early on. When you believe in the legitimacy of the State any protest on how it enslaves later on you falls on deaf ears to those who believe there's no moral or logical justification for the enslavement to begin with.

In order to redeem themselves I call on all of the protesters to continue demanding the State stop using its monopoly of force to infringe on all of our natural rights at all times not just a few weeks in during a pandemic.

That means abolishing all labor laws, all wage laws, all environmental laws, and all operational laws (hours you can work).

Bottom line: don't be fooled by the socialist who just happens to agree with you on a specific issue if you are a capitalist. How you arrive at that point is more important than when you get there.
Didn't realize you were part of the 1% - you know, a capitalist with capital.
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Old 05-01-2020, 01:58 PM
 
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If you vote, you can't complain.

If you agree to the paradigm in which an involuntary third party has the right to infringe on your natural rights there isn't any remedy when the ball bounces against you.

Why didn't these protesters take it to the streets immediately?

Why aren't they in the streets over min. wage laws, "workplace safety regulations", and labor age laws for example?

It's because they are just disagreeing with how they're being ruled over and not the fact itself that they are being ruled over.

As an anarchist I get told all the time to move to Somalia. Well, following that flawed logic why don't the protesters in Michigan and Ohio (blue governor, red governor) move to a state that has palatable infringements on the docket?

Hypocrites.
There is always going to be someone infringing on your rights.
Say I want to build a shack in a wealthy neighborhood.
All the wealthy would infringe on my rights by creating a union to block me from building.
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Old 05-01-2020, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Didn't realize you were part of the 1% - you know, a capitalist with capital.
I'm not.

I just don't stratify my rapings. I'm still on my back with my legs spread against my will.

When the government infringes upon my rights or the rights of others, regardless of perceived extent or perceived importance, the violation is still a violation.
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