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Old 05-30-2020, 11:17 AM
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I cannot wait until Trump is out of the White House. He makes enemies everywhere he goes. First it was our allies, now it's the WHO. He does't think he has any responsibility for any of this and is looking for someone to blame. I feel sorry for future presidents having to clean up Trump's mess.

Trump's supporters will applaud this as they do everything he does, but it's not a good thing. Turning the country isolationist helps no one but Trump's ego.

You people are so frickin predictable it's laughable at this point. Trump followed "the science" like all you sky screamers are constantly demanding he do. He took the WHO at it's word in January when the WHO lied and parroted CCP propaganda that there was no evidence of person to person spread of the virus. Less than 2 weeks (very end of January) later Trump got information that challenged the WHO"s conclusion and he instituted a ban on travel to and from China. He was ripped as xenophobic by both Biden and the WHO for doing so.

Trump followed "experts" like Dr Fauci when in early March Dr Fauci downplayed the virus by suggesting people should go on a cruise if they chose to. Bill de Blasio as well as other NYC officials were suggesting NYers go about their normal business as late as March 10th. Pelosi in very late February encouraged her constituents to gather for large celebrations.

This narrative that Democrats were sounding the alarm back in January, February, and early March while Trump was ignoring or not taking the threat seriously is insanely dishonest and hypocritical but what else is new.
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Old 05-30-2020, 11:48 AM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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You people are so frickin predictable it's laughable at this point. Trump followed "the science" like all you sky screamers are constantly demanding he do. He took the WHO at it's word in January when the WHO lied and parroted CCP propaganda that there was no evidence of person to person spread of the virus. Less than 2 weeks (very end of January) later Trump got information that challenged the WHO"s conclusion and he instituted a ban on travel to and from China. He was ripped as xenophobic by both Biden and the WHO for doing so.
January-14-2020, The WHO explained "that human-to-human transmission would not be surprising given our experience with SARS, MERS and other respiratory pathogens."

January-22-2020, The WHO "issued a statement saying that there was evidence of human-to-human transmission in Wuhan."

https://www.who.int/news-room/detail...ine---covid-19

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Trump followed "experts" like Dr Fauci when in early March Dr Fauci downplayed the virus by suggesting people should go on a cruise if they chose to.
February 26 - Dr Fauci said "countries like Iran, Japan, and Korea are having community based transmitions, this is a threat for the whole world."

https://www.cnbc.com/video/2020/03/2...ronavirus.html
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/0...navirus-134246

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This narrative that Democrats were sounding the alarm back in January, February, and early March while Trump was ignoring or not taking the threat seriously is insanely dishonest and hypocritical but what else is new.
The WHO warned Trump about the coronavirus in 2019.
https://www.businessinsider.com/amer...st-year-2020-4

In early January high level government officials were warning Trump about the "coronovirus becoming a crisis in America", but Trump ignored them and even refused to speak to them.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/governmen...124140944.html

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Old 05-30-2020, 12:22 PM
 
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I honestly do not see how in this time of crisis blaming the president instead of blaming the CCP is good for America????


The CCP has officially brainwashed America to believe supporting foreign policies targeting the CCP means you are a Trump supporter.

My fear is that if Trump loses, The CCP will run all over the world just like they have done in East Turkistan, Tibet and now Hong Kong.

I don't see anything as more of a threat to Americans safety other then the CCP, nothing even comes close!!!!

Which one of Trump's policies even come close to threatening Americans as much as the CCP threatens Americans.

Wake up America, the CCP are not friendly people.

HK and Taiwan did not like Trump when he was first elected but since the "wuhan virus" they absolutely love Trump,,, and I feel the same as them!! For all Trumps flaws he is willing to stand up to the CCP and that happens to be just what America needs right now!!!
The people who are blaming Trump and effectively defending the CCP are not interested in what is "good for America. It is as simple as that.
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Old 05-30-2020, 12:49 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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we have a president who has done nothing but increase the Chinese influence on the world.
"The US is 'not a global power' thanks to Trump's disastrous coronavirus response as China fills the void, former US officials warn."
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...filling-2020-4

"Trump has been a great president for China. Another term and he'd likely help Beijing rise to a position of global prominence from which it may never be dislodged."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/5191108002/

"China is utilizing the novel coronavirus as strategic leverage to vie for global leadership in a post-pandemic era. Meanwhile, due to a lack of visionary leadership, the United States continues to falter and maim its international reputation, which could lead to a significant shift in the world order...China’s sweeping geopolitical strategy provides (it) opportunities from Europe to Africa.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature...mic-era-148596

"Trump's WHO Funding Cut Is a Gift to Beijing" and "It’s not just the WHO. The Trump administration pattern of threatening to strip U.S. funding from some international organizations and to withdraw from others, like the U.N. Human Rights Council. That too plays to China’s broader strategy of transforming the U.N. “into a platform for its own foreign policy,â€
https://time.com/5822078/china-wins-...o-funding-cut/

"China Casts Itself as Global Savior While U.S. and EU Focus on Virus at Home."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/19...r-competition/

"Under Trump, America's Global Standing at Record Low. Two years later, Trump has failed to reverse America's decline."
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...ing-record-low
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Old 05-30-2020, 12:52 PM
 
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Trump removes U.S. from World Health Organization


Another brilliant decision by Trump. I'm soooo proud of our President!
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Old 05-30-2020, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Canada
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"The US is 'not a global power' thanks to Trump's disastrous coronavirus response as China fills the void, former US officials warn."
https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...filling-2020-4

"Trump has been a great president for China. Another term and he'd likely help Beijing rise to a position of global prominence from which it may never be dislodged."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opini...mn/5191108002/

"China is utilizing the novel coronavirus as strategic leverage to vie for global leadership in a post-pandemic era. Meanwhile, due to a lack of visionary leadership, the United States continues to falter and maim its international reputation, which could lead to a significant shift in the world order...China’s sweeping geopolitical strategy provides (it) opportunities from Europe to Africa.
https://nationalinterest.org/feature...mic-era-148596

"Trump's WHO Funding Cut Is a Gift to Beijing" and "It’s not just the WHO. The Trump administration pattern of threatening to strip U.S. funding from some international organizations and to withdraw from others, like the U.N. Human Rights Council. That too plays to China’s broader strategy of transforming the U.N. “into a platform for its own foreign policy,â€
https://time.com/5822078/china-wins-...o-funding-cut/

"China Casts Itself as Global Savior While U.S. and EU Focus on Virus at Home."
https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/03/19...r-competition/

"Under Trump, America's Global Standing at Record Low. Two years later, Trump has failed to reverse America's decline."
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2...ing-record-low
Yeah, I’ve been disturbed by China’s growing influence (and bullying/threats) in various countries for quite some time. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if China has been fanning the flames of American discontent with WHO and other international organizations on social media by the use of paid posters. It’s in China’s best interest if the U.S. vacates its international roles.

While most countries strategize in terms of years, China plays the long game and strategizes in terms of decades. You can do that when there is little risk every 4 years of being ousted from power. So China plays chess. The rest of the world plays checkers, not thinking many moves ahead.
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Old 05-30-2020, 02:09 PM
 
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He's a busy little tyrant, isn't he?
Hard to believe any Americans would not support those actions under the circumstances, regardless of what party the president was.

It is high time we stop supporting organizations/countries with tons of cash that do not support America in return.
I'd much rather have all that money go to our own health and research organizations.



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Old 05-30-2020, 10:04 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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You can do both and we have a president who has done nothing but increase the Chinese influence on the world.
Yeah, his foreign policy sucks, but his domestic policy sucks too. Everybody is mad about the WHO, but I was prepping for a major epidemic in the US in early January. If I knew it was coming just by reading the international news, don't try to tell me the CIA didn't know. Trump just ignored his briefings, or didn't understand them. I understand why one of his college professors called him, "The dumbest student I ever had." If something is not in his wheelhouse, it may as well not exist.
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Old 05-30-2020, 10:08 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Hard to believe any Americans would not support those actions under the circumstances, regardless of what party the president was.

It is high time we stop supporting organizations/countries with tons of cash that do not support America in return.
I'd much rather have all that money go to our own health and research organizations.

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Hmm. "Organizations with tones of cash that do not support America in return."

Like the NYSE?
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Old 05-31-2020, 03:18 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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Yeah, his foreign policy sucks, but his domestic policy sucks too. Everybody is mad about the WHO, but I was prepping for a major epidemic in the US in early January. If I knew it was coming just by reading the international news, don't try to tell me the CIA didn't know. Trump just ignored his briefings, or didn't understand them. I understand why one of his college professors called him, "The dumbest student I ever had." If something is not in his wheelhouse, it may as well not exist.
I think you know the answer. It's politically difficult to withdraw from organizations that have a broad constituency and whose name sounds good, but really do very little.
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