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Old 06-01-2020, 08:15 PM
 
Location: The Ozone Layer, apparently...
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These statuses were put up decades after the Civil War to memorialize a band of traitors. It's dubious to call them "history".
They are history. It's dubious to 'define history' for someone else.

In Stuart Circle is the J.E.B. Stuart Monument, an equestrian bronze statue sitting atop a granite base. The statue, sculpted by Fred Moynihan of New York, was the second monument unveiled on Monument Avenue, in 1907, and was inspired by the statue of British Lieutenant General Sir James Outram in Kolkata , India . Frederick Moynihan was an American sculptor, born on the Isle of Guernsey in 1843. He died in his New York City studio on January 9, 1910. Moynihan studied at the Royal Academy of Arts in London before immigrating to the United States. He is best remembered for creating monuments commemorating the American Civil War .

What happens when we forget history? Are we not doomed to repeat it?

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Old 06-01-2020, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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They are history. It's dubious to 'define history' for someone else.

In Stuart Circle is the J.E.B. Stuart Monument, an equestrian bronze statue sitting atop a granite base. The statue, sculpted by Fred Moynihan of New York, was the second monument unveiled on Monument Avenue, in 1907, and was inspired by the statue of British Lieutenant General Sir James Outram in Kolkata , India . Frederick Moynihan was an American sculptor, born on the Isle of Guernsey in 1843. He died in his New York City studio on January 9, 1910. Moynihan studied at the Royal Academy of Arts in London before immigrating to the United States. He is best remembered for creating monuments commemorating the American Civil War .

What happens when we forget history? Are we not doomed to repeat it?
Wasn't Jeb Stuart the traitor that abandoned Lee at Gettysburg? Yeah, that was him.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Texas
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I don't think monuments to white supremacy will fare too well during a race riot.

Just sayin.
lol They are monuments to the democratic party. Who do you think controlled the South then? The left controlled the south until the early 1990s. Slavery, Jim Crow, that's all from the left.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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They are history. It's dubious to 'define history' for someone else.

In Stuart Circle is the J.E.B. Stuart Monument, an equestrian bronze statue sitting atop a granite base. The statue, sculpted by Fred Moynihan of New York, was the second monument unveiled on Monument Avenue, in 1907, and was inspired by the statue of British Lieutenant General Sir James Outram in Kolkata , India . Frederick Moynihan was an American sculptor, born on the Isle of Guernsey in 1843. He died in his New York City studio on January 9, 1910. Moynihan studied at the Royal Academy of Arts in London before immigrating to the United States. He is best remembered for creating monuments commemorating the American Civil War .

What happens when we forget history? Are we not doomed to repeat it?
I don't think monuments, to a nation that was defeated, have a place on American soil. I'm not just saying that because they are monuments to democrats either.
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Old 06-01-2020, 09:59 PM
 
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lol They are monuments to the democratic party. Who do you think controlled the South then? The left controlled the south until the early 1990s. Slavery, Jim Crow, that's all from the left.
Then the Democratic party embraced civil rights on the national elvel, and now it's the Republicans angling for votes in the "muh heritage" crowd.

Funny how that works, almost as if there was some sort of overall plan put into action. A strategy, if you will. In the South. Someone should come up with a name for that.
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:18 PM
 
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The ancient Egyptians enslaved and mistreated the black nubians to the south of them.
Should we tear down Egyptian monuments because the ancient Egyptians were racist?

Do we have Egyptian monuments here? Where are they. I'd love to see them.
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:26 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Do we have Egyptian monuments here? Where are they. I'd love to see them.
they have one in Bennington, VT
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:28 PM
 
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they have one in Bennington, VT
Really. That's awesome.
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:34 PM
 
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Good. I hate Confederate monuments. I want all of them torn down, and there's nothing anyone can say to change my mind. Period.
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Old 06-01-2020, 10:38 PM
 
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Let them fall...
I agree. I'm in favor of tearing down Confederate monuments. The Confederates and the Nazis are one in the same to me.
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