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The premise is wrong especially in light of the past week. Arizona has exponential growth of Coronavirus cases, more so than the percentage for the testing. I think the record of single day cases have been broken twice this week alone. Hospitalization rates are very high at 80% much of the past week. We largely were not having high cases and hospitalizations during March and April but now are largely due to the reopening and "return to normalcy." I have noticed a LOT of no mask wearing for weeks and mentioned it on here. A local casino worker died of the virus after re-openning. The worker was worried about the precautions, the customers and the lack of masks by customers.
Anyone who is saying "Oh but New York" shut the Hell up. New York is a large metropolitan area that has a lot of international tourist spots. I know many immigrants to this country who always ask about Times Square. Me I never got a picture in there, but have been in it a handful of times and it is crowded. I didn't necessarily like going to it. Places like Florida and Arizona are seeing a rise now because the Republican governors used a one-size fits all approach and then returned to business with phasing that was not consistent with the federal guidelines. I think only blue states are actually using federal guidelines.
New deaths are spiking. If you click into worldometer, or any other data collector, deaths that were flatlining are now spiking again, likely due to opening of communities. There hasn't been time yet for deaths to have spiked due to protests; that will come in the next few weeks.
You have to have contagion, and then the incubation period, and then people getting so sick they die to see the results of large gatherings of protesters on our Covid experience.
I've been wondering about this. If there is no surge in cases, one could very plausibly make the case that the whole thing was a twisted hoax, as the OP states. Or one could say that the virus was real, but it has faded away and is no longer a threat. Either way, I think we can safely say that public support for social distancing and wearing masks will evaporate.
Umm, if by chance there is no surge in cases, one can safely assume it's because protesters wore masks, like everyone should, when gathering in groups. This is why healthcare workers who are exposed to covid19 patients don't get the virus. From tons of news footage i always saw masks on the vast majority of protesters, unlike those on the right who protest wearing them.
And reopenings were a month, month and a half ago, what's your point. New cases take up to 14 days to show signs and often spreads around three days after new infections. I think the issue is unless we trace where people who had the virus were and who they had close contact with whereever it was, it is a problem. If say I went on a plane and there was someone asymptomatic a row in back of me that got tested two days later, I need to know ASAP so I can quarantine. If I don't, I wont know until I have a fever.
Umm, if by chance there is no surge in cases, one can safely assume it's because protesters wore masks, like everyone should, when gathering in groups. This is why healthcare workers who are exposed to covid19 patients don't get the virus. From tons of news footage i always saw masks on the vast majority of protesters, unlike those on the right who protest wearing them.
Partially. I think we are also finding out that being outside helps A LOT with this virus. That's good news.
For those who insist that only hospitalizations count:
“As Florida health officials report another record single-day increase in cases of the novel coronavirus, new data shows hospitals across the state have filled most or all available beds in their respective intensive care units.“
“Thursday marked the seventh consecutive day that Texas reported a record number of hospitalized coronavirus patients, with 2,947 people currently in hospitals being treated for COVID-19, according to data released Thursday by the Texas Department of State Health Services.”
For those who insist that only hospitalizations count:
“As Florida health officials report another record single-day increase in cases of the novel coronavirus, new data shows hospitals across the state have filled most or all available beds in their respective intensive care units.“
“Thursday marked the seventh consecutive day that Texas reported a record number of hospitalized coronavirus patients, with 2,947 people currently in hospitals being treated for COVID-19, according to data released Thursday by the Texas Department of State Health Services.”
Well hospitalizations is a hard to truly refute stat. Going by cases, it opens you up to the comment, "Well it is only because of more testing that we see more positive cases." Republican governors (especially Gov. Dicey, Abbott and DeSantis) say it and governors period were encouraged by Vice President Pence. Hospitalizations is finite. There is an upperbound.
Trust me, I do find the rise in cases scary. The issue is Republicans and conservatives are lockstep in it being related to cases. They aren't and the amount of cases are beyond the percent increase in testing.
Arizona had over 3,000 positive cases out of 15,000 tests yesterday. The largest amount new cases for a single day and a positive rate of 7.8%. 41 additional deaths. https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/e...ards/index.php
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